HI Guys ! Please share you experience on how to backup zfs with ACL using commercially available backup softwares. Has any one tested backup of zfs with acl using Tivoli (TSM) thanks Ayaz This message posted from opensolaris.org
Hans-Juergen Schnitzer
2007-Mar-26 09:01 UTC
[zfs-discuss] Backup of ZFS Filesystem with ACL 4
Hi, we are using TSM to backup zfs. Currently, zfs is not supported at all and therefore you cannot backup zfs ACLs with TSM. TSM 5.5, which will probably be available at the end of the year, will have basic ZFS support (including backup and restore of ACLs). Hans Schnitzer Ayaz Anjum wrote:> HI Guys ! > > Please share you experience on how to backup zfs with ACL using commercially available backup softwares. Has any one tested backup of zfs with acl using Tivoli (TSM) > > thanks > > Ayaz > > > This message posted from opensolaris.org > _______________________________________________ > zfs-discuss mailing list > zfs-discuss at opensolaris.org > http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss >
HI Hans ! what is ur recommendation, for putting oracle database on zfs and backing up with tsm ? Have u tried any restores ? any issues other than ACL''s thanks Ayaz Hans-Juergen Schnitzer <schnitzer at rz.RWTH-Aachen.DE> Sent by: zfs-discuss-bounces at opensolaris.org 03/26/2007 12:01 PM To zfs-discuss at opensolaris.org cc Subject Re: [zfs-discuss] Backup of ZFS Filesystem with ACL 4 Hi, we are using TSM to backup zfs. Currently, zfs is not supported at all and therefore you cannot backup zfs ACLs with TSM. TSM 5.5, which will probably be available at the end of the year, will have basic ZFS support (including backup and restore of ACLs). Hans Schnitzer Ayaz Anjum wrote:> HI Guys ! > > Please share you experience on how to backup zfs with ACL usingcommercially available backup softwares. Has any one tested backup of zfs with acl using Tivoli (TSM)> > thanks > > Ayaz > > > This message posted from opensolaris.org > _______________________________________________ > zfs-discuss mailing list > zfs-discuss at opensolaris.org > http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss >_______________________________________________ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss at opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Confidentiality Notice : This e-mail and any attachments are confidential to the addressee and may also be privileged. If you are not the addressee of this e-mail, you may not copy, forward, disclose or otherwise use it in any way whatsoever. If you have received this e-mail by mistake, please e-mail the sender by replying to this message, and delete the original and any print out thereof. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/zfs-discuss/attachments/20070326/70aa9bed/attachment.html>
Hans-Juergen Schnitzer
2007-Mar-26 12:26 UTC
[zfs-discuss] Backup of ZFS Filesystem with ACL 4
I am sorry, we don''t have oracle databases on zfs filesystems (colleagues of mine are currently exploring RMAN to backup oracle databases, that reside on a ufs filesystem, however). We are doing backups of zfs storage pools with about 2000 filesystems (basically home directories). Some of the issues we did encounter: - For each single filesystem we had to add a corresponding DOMAIN entry to dsm.sys. Very tedious. - We have distributed the filesystems among several TSM nodes. One reason is that a full restore hangs if there a two many filesystems/data in one TSM node. - The TSM client does not easily allow to remove TSM filespaces. - TSM does not backup ZFS filesystem properties, of course. Hope this helps. Hans Ayaz Anjum wrote:> > HI Hans ! > > what is ur recommendation, for putting oracle database on zfs and > backing up with tsm ? Have u tried any restores ? any issues other than > ACL''s > > thanks > > Ayaz > > > *Hans-Juergen Schnitzer <schnitzer at rz.RWTH-Aachen.DE>* > Sent by: zfs-discuss-bounces at opensolaris.org > > 03/26/2007 12:01 PM > > > To > zfs-discuss at opensolaris.org > cc > > Subject > Re: [zfs-discuss] Backup of ZFS Filesystem with ACL 4 > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > we are using TSM to backup zfs. > Currently, zfs is not supported at all and therefore you cannot > backup zfs ACLs with TSM. TSM 5.5, which will probably be available > at the end of the year, will have basic ZFS support (including > backup and restore of ACLs). > > Hans Schnitzer > > Ayaz Anjum wrote: > > HI Guys ! > > > > Please share you experience on how to backup zfs with ACL using > commercially available backup softwares. Has any one tested backup of > zfs with acl using Tivoli (TSM) > > > > thanks > > > > Ayaz > > > > > > This message posted from opensolaris.org > > _______________________________________________ > > zfs-discuss mailing list > > zfs-discuss at opensolaris.org > > http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss > > > > > _______________________________________________ > zfs-discuss mailing list > zfs-discuss at opensolaris.org > http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Confidentiality Notice : This e-mail and any attachments are > confidential to the addressee and may also be privileged. If you are > not the addressee of this e-mail, you may not copy, forward, disclose > or otherwise use it in any way whatsoever. If you have received this > e-mail by mistake, please e-mail the sender by replying to this > message, and delete the original and any print out thereof. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > zfs-discuss mailing list > zfs-discuss at opensolaris.org > http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss-- -------------------------------------------------------------------- \_\_\_\_ \_ \_\_\_\_\_ \_ Hans-Juergen Schnitzer \_ \_\_ \__ \_ \_ \_ \_ Center for Computing and Communication \_\_\_ \_\_\_\_ \_ \_\_\_ RWTH Aachen (Germany) \_ \_ \__ \__ \_ \_ \_ phone: ++49-(0)241-80-28719 \_ \_ \_ \_ \_ \_ \_ email: schnitzer at rz.rwth-aachen.de --------------------------------------------------------------------
On 26 March, 2007 - Hans-Juergen Schnitzer sent me these 3,5K bytes:> I am sorry, we don''t have oracle databases on zfs filesystems > (colleagues of mine are currently exploring RMAN to backup oracle > databases, that reside on a ufs filesystem, however). > > We are doing backups of zfs storage pools with about 2000 filesystems > (basically home directories). Some of the issues we did encounter: > - For each single filesystem we had to add a corresponding DOMAIN > entry to dsm.sys. Very tedious.Another method: If you don''t specify any domain, it will automatically backup every filesystem (checking for new fs''es at each scheduled operation).. Exclude the ones you don''t want with exclude.fs in InclExcl.. /Tomas -- Tomas ?gren, stric at acc.umu.se, http://www.acc.umu.se/~stric/ |- Student at Computing Science, University of Ume? `- Sysadmin at {cs,acc}.umu.se
>> I am sorry, we don''t have oracle databases on zfs filesystems >> (colleagues of mine are currently exploring RMAN to backup oracle >> databases, that reside on a ufs filesystem, however). >> >> We are doing backups of zfs storage pools with about 2000 filesystems >> (basically home directories). Some of the issues we did encounter: >> - For each single filesystem we had to add a corresponding DOMAIN >> entry to dsm.sys. Very tedious.> Another method: > If you don''t specify any domain, it will automatically backup every > filesystem (checking for new fs''es at each scheduled operation).. > Exclude the ones you don''t want with exclude.fs in InclExcl..In our site, it doesn''t work as expected (the way describe above). I need to write a little script, launched via the "postschedulecmd" directive of the TSM client utility. A quick and little example can be found at: http://www.thilelli.net/~jgabel/archives/2006/12/11/index.html#e2006-12-11T23_25_15.txt -- julien. http://www.thilelli.net/~jgabel/
Hans-Juergen Schnitzer
2007-Mar-26 16:00 UTC
[zfs-discuss] Backup of ZFS Filesystem with ACL 4
Tomas ?gren wrote:> On 26 March, 2007 - Hans-Juergen Schnitzer sent me these 3,5K bytes: > >> I am sorry, we don''t have oracle databases on zfs filesystems >> (colleagues of mine are currently exploring RMAN to backup oracle >> databases, that reside on a ufs filesystem, however). >> >> We are doing backups of zfs storage pools with about 2000 filesystems >> (basically home directories). Some of the issues we did encounter: >> - For each single filesystem we had to add a corresponding DOMAIN >> entry to dsm.sys. Very tedious. > > Another method: > If you don''t specify any domain, it will automatically backup every > filesystem (checking for new fs''es at each scheduled operation).. > Exclude the ones you don''t want with exclude.fs in InclExcl.. > > /TomasWe didn''t do that because we have several zfs storage pools that are usually served by different fileservers but may also be served by one single fileserver. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- \_\_\_\_ \_ \_\_\_\_\_ \_ Hans-Juergen Schnitzer \_ \_\_ \__ \_ \_ \_ \_ Center for Computing and Communication \_\_\_ \_\_\_\_ \_ \_\_\_ RWTH Aachen (Germany) \_ \_ \__ \__ \_ \_ \_ phone: ++49-(0)241-80-28719 \_ \_ \_ \_ \_ \_ \_ email: schnitzer at rz.rwth-aachen.de --------------------------------------------------------------------
Wade.Stuart at fallon.com
2007-Mar-26 16:04 UTC
[zfs-discuss] Backup of ZFS Filesystem with ACL 4
zfs-discuss-bounces at opensolaris.org wrote on 03/26/2007 11:00:23 AM:> Tomas ?gren wrote: > > On 26 March, 2007 - Hans-Juergen Schnitzer sent me these 3,5K bytes: > > > >> I am sorry, we don''t have oracle databases on zfs filesystems > >> (colleagues of mine are currently exploring RMAN to backup oracle > >> databases, that reside on a ufs filesystem, however). > >> > >> We are doing backups of zfs storage pools with about 2000 filesystems > >> (basically home directories). Some of the issues we did encounter: > >> - For each single filesystem we had to add a corresponding DOMAIN > >> entry to dsm.sys. Very tedious. > > > > Another method: > > If you don''t specify any domain, it will automatically backup every > > filesystem (checking for new fs''es at each scheduled operation).. > > Exclude the ones you don''t want with exclude.fs in InclExcl.. > > > > /Tomas > > We didn''t do that because we have several zfs storage pools that > are usually served by different fileservers but may also be served > by one single fileserver. >Also, does the glob all suck in all of the .zfs snapshots or are they ignored (by default)?
Hello Wade, Monday, March 26, 2007, 6:04:16 PM, you wrote: WSfc> zfs-discuss-bounces at opensolaris.org wrote on 03/26/2007 11:00:23 AM:>> Tomas ?gren wrote: >> > On 26 March, 2007 - Hans-Juergen Schnitzer sent me these 3,5K bytes: >> > >> >> I am sorry, we don''t have oracle databases on zfs filesystems >> >> (colleagues of mine are currently exploring RMAN to backup oracle >> >> databases, that reside on a ufs filesystem, however). >> >> >> >> We are doing backups of zfs storage pools with about 2000 filesystems >> >> (basically home directories). Some of the issues we did encounter: >> >> - For each single filesystem we had to add a corresponding DOMAIN >> >> entry to dsm.sys. Very tedious. >> > >> > Another method: >> > If you don''t specify any domain, it will automatically backup every >> > filesystem (checking for new fs''es at each scheduled operation).. >> > Exclude the ones you don''t want with exclude.fs in InclExcl.. >> > >> > /Tomas >> >> We didn''t do that because we have several zfs storage pools that >> are usually served by different fileservers but may also be served >> by one single fileserver. >>WSfc> Also, does the glob all suck in all of the .zfs snapshots or are they WSfc> ignored (by default)? By default snapdir=hidden so TSM won''t notice snapshots by itself. -- Best regards, Robert mailto:rmilkowski at task.gda.pl http://milek.blogspot.com
Hi ! I have currently an NFS server over ufs above 5 TB with alot of ACL which i was planning to migrate to zfs. But since backup of zfs with ACL is not possible, i am very upset for not being able to go ahead with replacing ufs with zfs. Ayaz This message posted from opensolaris.org
Ayaz Anjum wrote:> Hi ! > > I have currently an NFS server over ufs above 5 TB with alot of ACL which i was planning to migrate to zfs. But since backup of zfs with ACL is not possible, i am very upset for not being able to go ahead with replacing ufs with zfs.Backing up ZFS ACL:s is supported on EBS 7.3.2 and later. Sami