Icecast - Aug 2004 - Icecast2 / Ogg / oddcastDSP / Winamp2 Constant Prebuffering

Hrm, yes it does sound like a bug in WinAmp.  Even if it does prebuffer, the 
length counter should be going beyond 0:01 since you've obviously been 
listening longer than that after the first second. =P  (I don't think the 
counter resets after buffering, but I could be wrong.)

Can you see if you can duplicate it by getting someone else to tune in to the 
'cast with WinAmp?
>===== Original Message From John Farnsworth <si@darkness.nu> ====>I
don't think it's connection, since I can recreate it across a 100mbit
>LAN without issue.  I've been playing with the buffer settings in
Winamp,
>haven't been able to clear it up.  It isn't buffer underrunning or
>anything, it seems that it's just the fact it thinks the stream is over
>constantly, so starts prebuffering again as start of stream (length always
>shows as <0:01>.  I'll keep messing with the vorbis streaming
buffer
>settings in Winamp, i'm pretty convinced it's just winamp acting up
(I
>fired it up on my PDA, and didn't have the problem).
>
>On Thu, 15 May 2003, Chris G (Moguta) wrote:
>
>> Sounds like WinAmp isn't storing a large enough buffer, or Icecast
isn't
>> putting a long enough buffer between what it recieves from Oddcast
& what
it
>> transmits to clients.
>>
>> I've never had such a problem, though.  Could be your connection?
>>
>> >===== Original Message From John Farnsworth <si@darkness.nu>
====>> >Hrm, but it works fine (and the mountpoint is /dnumusic.ogg). 
It just
>> >constantly says it's prebuffering.  It doesn't affect the
audio output of
>> >it at all, it just never scrolls the songtitle/etc.  Just
prebuffer, flash
>> >of title, prebuffer again.
>> >
>> >On Thu, 15 May 2003, Jack Moffitt wrote:
>> >
>> >> > Noticing a strange issue, i'm not sure where this
lies.  I'm using
>> >> > oddcastDSP to stream Ogg to icecast2, which seems to be
working ok,
but
>> >> > using winamp (v2) to stream from icecast, winamp is
constantly
>> >> > prebuffering, displaying a length of 0:01.  Is this a
known bug in
either
>> >> > Winamp or icecast, or a configuration issue perhaps?  I
have a feeling
>> >> > this is Winamp, but I was wondering if anyone knew for
sure.
>> >>
>> >> Sounds like you forgot to name your mountpoint ending in .ogg.
Winamp
>> >> assumes everythign is mp3 unless you give it a file extension.
It
>> >> ignores mimetypes.
>> >>
>> >> jack.
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Well, I duplicated it myself using 2 different machines, one at the office
and one at home.  Both are Winamp 2.81 as I despise winamp 3 more than I
despise windows media player, and nearly as much as I hate realplayer.

On Fri, 16 May 2003, Chris G (Moguta) wrote:
> Hrm, yes it does sound like a bug in WinAmp.  Even if it does prebuffer,
the
> length counter should be going beyond 0:01 since you've obviously been
> listening longer than that after the first second. =P  (I don't think
the
> counter resets after buffering, but I could be wrong.)
>
> Can you see if you can duplicate it by getting someone else to tune in to
the
> 'cast with WinAmp?
>
> >===== Original Message From John Farnsworth <si@darkness.nu>
====> >I don't think it's connection, since I can recreate it
across a 100mbit
> >LAN without issue.  I've been playing with the buffer settings in
Winamp,
> >haven't been able to clear it up.  It isn't buffer underrunning
or
> >anything, it seems that it's just the fact it thinks the stream is
over
> >constantly, so starts prebuffering again as start of stream (length
always
> >shows as <0:01>.  I'll keep messing with the vorbis streaming
buffer
> >settings in Winamp, i'm pretty convinced it's just winamp
acting up (I
> >fired it up on my PDA, and didn't have the problem).
> >
> >On Thu, 15 May 2003, Chris G (Moguta) wrote:
> >
> >> Sounds like WinAmp isn't storing a large enough buffer, or
Icecast isn't
> >> putting a long enough buffer between what it recieves from Oddcast
& what
> it
> >> transmits to clients.
> >>
> >> I've never had such a problem, though.  Could be your
connection?
> >>
> >> >===== Original Message From John Farnsworth
<si@darkness.nu> ====> >> >Hrm, but it works fine (and the
mountpoint is /dnumusic.ogg).  It just
> >> >constantly says it's prebuffering.  It doesn't affect
the audio output of
> >> >it at all, it just never scrolls the songtitle/etc.  Just
prebuffer, flash
> >> >of title, prebuffer again.
> >> >
> >> >On Thu, 15 May 2003, Jack Moffitt wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> > Noticing a strange issue, i'm not sure where
this lies.  I'm using
> >> >> > oddcastDSP to stream Ogg to icecast2, which seems to
be working ok,
> but
> >> >> > using winamp (v2) to stream from icecast, winamp is
constantly
> >> >> > prebuffering, displaying a length of 0:01.  Is this
a known bug in
> either
> >> >> > Winamp or icecast, or a configuration issue perhaps?
I have a feeling
> >> >> > this is Winamp, but I was wondering if anyone knew
for sure.
> >> >>
> >> >> Sounds like you forgot to name your mountpoint ending in
.ogg.  Winamp
> >> >> assumes everythign is mp3 unless you give it a file
extension.  It
> >> >> ignores mimetypes.
> >> >>
> >> >> jack.
>
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