ogg dev - Nov 2010 - how to set default audio track?

Hallo oggs,

i googled it but still can't find any answer: how can i set default
audio track?

I transcode my dvds to ogg, i use gst-launch for it:
gst-launch filesrc location=stream.dump ! mpegpsdemux name=demux \
oggmux name=mux ! filesink location=out.ogg \
demux.audio_80 ! a52dec mode=2 ! audioconvert ! audioresample !
audio/x-raw-float,rate=44100,channels=2 ! audiorate ! \
taginject tags="language-code=eng" ! vorbisenc ! queue ! mux. \
demux.audio_81 ! a52dec mode=2 ! audioconvert ! audioresample !
audio/x-raw-float,rate=44100,channels=2 ! audiorate ! \
taginject tags="language-code=ger" ! vorbisenc ! queue ! mux. \
demux.video_e0 ! mpeg2dec ! videocrop top=76 bottom=74 !
ffmpegcolorspace ! videorate ! theoraenc quality=55 ! queue ! mux.

on each vorbis track i set tag LANGUAGE= , it works fine. But i wont to
set default track or language. Are there any way to do it? at least with
oggz tools?
-- 
Regards,
        Alexey

Typically video players will play back the last audio track in a Ogg
Theora file, because it is the last one that they see.
There is no way to specify which is the "default" audio track and it
would not make sense anyway. If you are a German speaker, your
"default" would be the German audio track - if you are a native
English speaker, it would be the English audio track. So, it's not
possible to say which should be the default. Such a thing only makes
sense in the context of a Web page that is clearly written in one
language only. It's much more useful for your machine environment to
understand what tracks are available. Maybe future versions of media
players will actually do so and then choose your "default" track based
on the language settings of your user login.

Cheers,
Silvia.

On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 9:28 PM, Alexey Fisher
<bug-track at fisher-privat.net> wrote:
> Hallo oggs,
>
> i googled it but still can't find any answer: how can i set default
> audio track?
>
> I transcode my dvds to ogg, i use gst-launch for it:
> gst-launch filesrc location=stream.dump ! mpegpsdemux name=demux \
> oggmux name=mux ! filesink location=out.ogg \
> demux.audio_80 ! a52dec mode=2 ! audioconvert ! audioresample !
> audio/x-raw-float,rate=44100,channels=2 ! audiorate ! \
> taginject tags="language-code=eng" ! vorbisenc ! queue ! mux. \
> demux.audio_81 ! a52dec mode=2 ! audioconvert ! audioresample !
> audio/x-raw-float,rate=44100,channels=2 ! audiorate ! \
> taginject tags="language-code=ger" ! vorbisenc ! queue ! mux. \
> demux.video_e0 ! mpeg2dec ! videocrop top=76 bottom=74 !
> ffmpegcolorspace ! videorate ! theoraenc quality=55 ! queue ! mux.
>
> on each vorbis track i set tag LANGUAGE= , it works fine. But i wont to
> set default track or language. Are there any way to do it? at least with
> oggz tools?
> --
> Regards,
> ? ? ? ?Alexey
>
> _______________________________________________
> ogg-dev mailing list
> ogg-dev at xiph.org
> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/ogg-dev
>

Am Freitag, den 26.11.2010, 23:15 +1100 schrieb Silvia
Pfeiffer:
> Typically video players will play back the last audio track in a Ogg
> Theora file, because it is the last one that they see.
> There is no way to specify which is the "default" audio track and
it
> would not make sense anyway. If you are a German speaker, your
> "default" would be the German audio track - if you are a native
> English speaker, it would be the English audio track. So, it's not
> possible to say which should be the default. Such a thing only makes
> sense in the context of a Web page that is clearly written in one
> language only. It's much more useful for your machine environment to
> understand what tracks are available. Maybe future versions of media
> players will actually do so and then choose your "default" track
based
> on the language settings of your user login.
It make sense. Thank you for response.
-- 
Regards,
        Alexey

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On 11/26/2010 03:15 PM, Silvia Pfeiffer wrote:
> Typically video players will play back the last audio track in a Ogg
> Theora file, because it is the last one that they see.
> There is no way to specify which is the "default" audio track and
it
> would not make sense anyway. If you are a German speaker, your
> "default" would be the German audio track - if you are a native
> English speaker, it would be the English audio track. So, it's not
> possible to say which should be the default. Such a thing only makes
> sense in the context of a Web page that is clearly written in one
> language only. It's much more useful for your machine environment to
> understand what tracks are available. Maybe future versions of media
> players will actually do so and then choose your "default" track
based
> on the language settings of your user login.
> 
> Cheers,
> Silvia.
I'd think that it's only superficially true. For example if i make a
film in
English and then write Russian language subtitles for it; after that i can
record "director's commentary" track in Russian, the default
playback that a
user would expect in Britain would be "English audio only" and in
Russia it
would be "English audio + Russian subtitles".

I think that in many cases defaulting to the user's profile language can
lead to
the confusion.

Multiple language tracks will only add insult to injury, since they would never
be chosen as default, even though most likely it is they who are "main
track" of
the feature.

             - Volodya
> On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 9:28 PM, Alexey Fisher
> <bug-track at fisher-privat.net> wrote:
>> Hallo oggs,
>>
>> i googled it but still can't find any answer: how can i set default
>> audio track?
>>
>> I transcode my dvds to ogg, i use gst-launch for it:
>> gst-launch filesrc location=stream.dump ! mpegpsdemux name=demux \
>> oggmux name=mux ! filesink location=out.ogg \
>> demux.audio_80 ! a52dec mode=2 ! audioconvert ! audioresample !
>> audio/x-raw-float,rate=44100,channels=2 ! audiorate ! \
>> taginject tags="language-code=eng" ! vorbisenc ! queue ! mux.
\
>> demux.audio_81 ! a52dec mode=2 ! audioconvert ! audioresample !
>> audio/x-raw-float,rate=44100,channels=2 ! audiorate ! \
>> taginject tags="language-code=ger" ! vorbisenc ! queue ! mux.
\
>> demux.video_e0 ! mpeg2dec ! videocrop top=76 bottom=74 !
>> ffmpegcolorspace ! videorate ! theoraenc quality=55 ! queue ! mux.
>>
>> on each vorbis track i set tag LANGUAGE= , it works fine. But i wont to
>> set default track or language. Are there any way to do it? at least
with
>> oggz tools?
>> --
>> Regards,
>>        Alexey
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> ogg-dev mailing list
>> ogg-dev at xiph.org
>> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/ogg-dev
>>
> _______________________________________________
> ogg-dev mailing list
> ogg-dev at xiph.org
> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/ogg-dev

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