flac dev - Dec 2012 - The FLAC website

On 14 September 2012 18:01, Martijn van Beurden <mvanb1 at gmail.com>
wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I've updated the RSS feed and made the pages fetch and display that
feed.
> Now only the feed had to be updated to update the pages as well.
>
> I have included a patch, however, I've never worked with git before so
I
> hope everything is done correctly. If not, please tell me. I've removed
the
> feeds/news-atom1.xml file, however that doesn't show up in the diff
file?
>
> I would like to refresh the rest of the website as well, but changing the
> menu (to remove the russian part of the website for instance) requires to
> update all the pages, of which there are quite a lot. With my own website,
I
> use PHP includes to keep a single 'header' and 'footer'
file which is
> included in every page to keep updates easy. Would that be possible here as
> well? Does Xiph run on PHP? Are there other methods of 'including'
a single
> header/footer that are preferable over PHP includes?
>
IIRC the xiph sites use server-side includes (apache SSI) for headers
and footers. I can't see the logs right now, but I vaguely recall that
someone started porting the flac site to use the usual xiph include
style, and that version is in SVN at:

http://svn.xiph.org/websites-new/flac.xiph.org/

perhaps that would be a good place to start, and co-ordinate with the
xiph.org webmaster about getting the new version installed.

cheers,

Conrad.
>
> On 30-08-12 21:46, Erik de Castro Lopo wrote:
>>
>> Sorry, for the late repsonse Martijn. I've been crazy busy.
>>
>> Martijn van Beurden wrote:
>>
>>> On 28-08-12 10:46, Erik de Castro Lopo wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I think thats a great idea. WOuld be happy to have someone pick
>>>> this up and run with it.
>>>
>>> So I got busy but stumbled upon several things. I'm not sure
why there
>>> are two boxes displaying the same news on the homepage right now,
so I
>>> made two screenshots of possible designs, one which keeps both
boxes and
>>> one that moves everything to the sidebar. I've enlarged the
sidebar a
>>> bit in both.
>>>
>>> http://www.icer.nl/images/ktf/flac-website-both.png
>>> http://www.icer.nl/images/ktf/flac-website-sidebar.png
>>>
>>> The design changed a little because I couldn't get everything
exactly
>>> the same, which I assume isn't much of a problem.
>>
>> Its not.
>>
>>> Anyway, I've updated
>>> the feed from the ancient atom format to the now standard RSS 2.0
spec,
>>> made some XSL-files to transform this feed to different lay-outs
and
>>> googled some javascript to embed it into the website and added some
>>> search results for 'FLAC-news' :)
>>>
>>> Any thoughts about this lay-out? :)
>>
>> Sorry, no. Happy if you're thinking about and working on it :-).
>>
>> Erik
>
>
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On 13.12.2012, at 03:57, Conrad Parker wrote:
> 
> 
> IIRC the xiph sites use server-side includes (apache SSI) for headers
> and footers. I can't see the logs right now, but I vaguely recall that
> someone started porting the flac site to use the usual xiph include
> style, and that version is in SVN at:
> 
> http://svn.xiph.org/websites-new/flac.xiph.org/
> 
> perhaps that would be a good place to start, and co-ordinate with the
> xiph.org webmaster about getting the new version installed.
> 
Yay, yet another version of the website :-).

I am not really a fan of SSI myself, but if this is what is there, and people
are familiar with it, I think it should also do just fine.

As I said, another alternative would be to use a static website generator. This
requires no software at all on the server, just on the developer's machine,
and also makes it easy to test before committing them, without neeeding a
webserver. A list of such tools can be found here:
<http://iwantmyname.com/blog/2011/02/list-static-website-generators.html>

But anyway, whatever works for people... Erik, do you have a preference?

Cheers,
Max

On 13-12-12 13:20, Max Horn wrote:
> On 13.12.2012, at 03:57, Conrad Parker wrote:
>> IIRC the xiph sites use server-side includes (apache SSI) for headers
>> and footers. [...]
>>
> Yay, yet another version of the website :-).
>
> I am not really a fan of SSI myself, but if this is what is there, and
people are familiar with it, I think it should also do just fine.
I really had something like this in mind when I asked. After looking 
into it, it seems nice and simple to me, little can go wrong with this
> As I said, another alternative would be to use a static website generator.
Yes, but this has some drawbacks as well. I like to keep things simple 
until the very last step (apache rendering in this case) to keep it 
transparant. It might very well be that Josh used a static website 
generator, but as we don't have the source, we're stuck with these 
static files now. Finally, the don't like the idea of having two 
different but similar files. Source and binaries are very different, but 
static webpages and 'static website generator files' usually look a lot 
alike.

I'd vote for SSI then. If no one else takes the job of converting it, I 
will, but not within the next two months.