I think that the time has come for me to back off a bit from my
involvement with Shorewall. I just don''t have enough cycles (or energy)
to
keep up the pace of the last several months. As a consequence, I''m
going
to do the following:
1. I''m going to stop personally supporting the entry level tools
(samples
and quick start guide).
These tools are a source of constant frustration to me because they are
never up to date and never seem to meet people''s needs. My goal for
Shorewall was to make it usable in complex and changing environments (the
problem space where Seawall failed so miserably and where my true
interests lie). I think that I have succeeded, but adapting Shorewall to
the expectations and capabilities of people who want a shrink-wrapped
firewall that they can install in a few minutes requires motivation which
I simply don''t have.
If someone wants to step up and support these tools, I would be grateful.
Should there be a volunteer, I will continue to integrate the tools into
my web and ftp sites.
2. I''m abandoning work on the Shorewall GUI
Every time that I sit down to work on the GUI, I find something more
interesting to do. I frankly don''t care enough if Shorewall has a GUI
to
expend the energy to write one and it is time that I admitted that fact to
myself. This is not to say that I don''t support fully the efforts of
folks like John Lodge who are working to provide a GUI; I''m simpley not
going to build one myself.
3. I''m going to monitor the list must less closely.
I appreciate any help all of you can give me to help pick up the slack.
-----------------
I want to make it clear that I am in no way abandoning Shorewall or my
commitment to it. I am just going to focus my energy in those areas where
I have interest and where I think I can make Shorewall better.
-Tom
--
Tom Eastep \ Shorewall - iptables made easy
AIM: tmeastep \ http://www.shorewall.net
ICQ: #60745924 \ teastep@shorewall.net
Tom, You''ve certainly done a mountain of work, and deserve a rest! When I found Shorewall, I was pleased with its capabilities. When I discoverd the level of support you provided, I was amazed. When I looked at how much I paid for it --- unbelievable. The time you did spend devoted to is it showed dedication I have not seen elsewhere in open source software. You have been going "above and beyond" for much longer than anyone could possibly have hoped for. Kick back... Many thanks again for all your efforts!! Dan Optimum Networks, Inc. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Eastep" <teastep@shorewall.net> To: "Shorewall Users" <shorewall-users@shorewall.net>; "Shorewall Announcements" <shorewall-announce@shorewall.net>; <shorewall-devel@shorewall.net> Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 11:36 AM Subject: [Shorewall-users] Burn Out> > I think that the time has come for me to back off a bit from my > involvement with Shorewall. I just don''t have enough cycles (or energy) to > keep up the pace of the last several months. As a consequence, I''m going > to do the following: > > 1. I''m going to stop personally supporting the entry level tools (samples > and quick start guide). > > These tools are a source of constant frustration to me because they are > never up to date and never seem to meet people''s needs. My goal for > Shorewall was to make it usable in complex and changing environments (the > problem space where Seawall failed so miserably and where my true > interests lie). I think that I have succeeded, but adapting Shorewall to > the expectations and capabilities of people who want a shrink-wrapped > firewall that they can install in a few minutes requires motivation which > I simply don''t have. > > If someone wants to step up and support these tools, I would be grateful. > Should there be a volunteer, I will continue to integrate the tools into > my web and ftp sites. > > 2. I''m abandoning work on the Shorewall GUI > > Every time that I sit down to work on the GUI, I find something more > interesting to do. I frankly don''t care enough if Shorewall has a GUI to > expend the energy to write one and it is time that I admitted that fact to > myself. This is not to say that I don''t support fully the efforts of > folks like John Lodge who are working to provide a GUI; I''m simpley not > going to build one myself. > > 3. I''m going to monitor the list must less closely. > > I appreciate any help all of you can give me to help pick up the slack. > > ----------------- > I want to make it clear that I am in no way abandoning Shorewall or my > commitment to it. I am just going to focus my energy in those areas where > I have interest and where I think I can make Shorewall better. > > -Tom > -- > Tom Eastep \ Shorewall - iptables made easy > AIM: tmeastep \ http://www.shorewall.net > ICQ: #60745924 \ teastep@shorewall.net > > > > _______________________________________________ > Shorewall-users mailing list > Shorewall-users@shorewall.net > http://www.shorewall.net/mailman/listinfo/shorewall-users >
Thank you Tom for all the work you have done creating an easy to use text based, modern firewall. The /etc/shorewall files and your excellent web site allowed me to get a working firewall up and running quickly. The basic simplicity of the configuration files helped me grasp the rules and policies for the firewall without having to intimately know iptables or ipchains. I used the examples as examples only, not as solutions, but as guides. More examples might be better than no examples at all. Not having a GUI was one of the most appealing aspects of Shorewall for me. I could just dive into the example config files and the documentation and learn about the system. I have appreciated seeing your efforts directed at improving the base system with enhancements like the recent rate limiting code. Keeping the core firewall up to date and feature rich is more important to the long term life of Shorewall than all the GUI''s and pre-canned configuration files in the world. Shorewall is a great firewall and your support and dedication have been second to none. Your new focus gets my support. I would be glad to help support the quick start guide and samples. Thank you, -- Steve Herber herber@thing.com work: 206-261-0307 Systems Engineer, AMCIS, UoW home: 425-454-2399 On Fri, 26 Apr 2002, Tom Eastep wrote:> > I think that the time has come for me to back off a bit from my > involvement with Shorewall. I just don''t have enough cycles (or energy) to > keep up the pace of the last several months. As a consequence, I''m going > to do the following: > > 1. I''m going to stop personally supporting the entry level tools (samples > and quick start guide). > > These tools are a source of constant frustration to me because they are > never up to date and never seem to meet people''s needs. My goal for > Shorewall was to make it usable in complex and changing environments (the > problem space where Seawall failed so miserably and where my true > interests lie). I think that I have succeeded, but adapting Shorewall to > the expectations and capabilities of people who want a shrink-wrapped > firewall that they can install in a few minutes requires motivation which > I simply don''t have. > > If someone wants to step up and support these tools, I would be grateful. > Should there be a volunteer, I will continue to integrate the tools into > my web and ftp sites. > > 2. I''m abandoning work on the Shorewall GUI > > Every time that I sit down to work on the GUI, I find something more > interesting to do. I frankly don''t care enough if Shorewall has a GUI to > expend the energy to write one and it is time that I admitted that fact to > myself. This is not to say that I don''t support fully the efforts of > folks like John Lodge who are working to provide a GUI; I''m simpley not > going to build one myself. > > 3. I''m going to monitor the list must less closely. > > I appreciate any help all of you can give me to help pick up the slack. > > ----------------- > I want to make it clear that I am in no way abandoning Shorewall or my > commitment to it. I am just going to focus my energy in those areas where > I have interest and where I think I can make Shorewall better. > > -Tom > -- > Tom Eastep \ Shorewall - iptables made easy > AIM: tmeastep \ http://www.shorewall.net > ICQ: #60745924 \ teastep@shorewall.net
Hi, I just wanted to thank you for all of your hard work in creating such a great package, and for your support. It is unmatched in both commercial and open-source software. Do you have a paypal account? I don''t believe that I''m not the only one on the list who feels the urge to compensate you financially, even if just a little bit, for your hard work. Maybe an amazon.com wish list? I know someone asked you about it in the past.... :-) Good luck in your future endeavors! Eric --- Tom Eastep <teastep@shorewall.net> wrote:> > I think that the time has come for me to back off a > bit from my > involvement with Shorewall. I just don''t have enough > cycles (or energy) to > keep up the pace of the last several months. As a > consequence, I''m going > to do the following: > > 1. I''m going to stop personally supporting the entry > level tools (samples > and quick start guide). > > These tools are a source of constant frustration to > me because they are > never up to date and never seem to meet people''s > needs. My goal for > Shorewall was to make it usable in complex and > changing environments (the > problem space where Seawall failed so miserably and > where my true > interests lie). I think that I have succeeded, but > adapting Shorewall to > the expectations and capabilities of people who want > a shrink-wrapped > firewall that they can install in a few minutes > requires motivation which > I simply don''t have. > > If someone wants to step up and support these tools, > I would be grateful. > Should there be a volunteer, I will continue to > integrate the tools into > my web and ftp sites. > > 2. I''m abandoning work on the Shorewall GUI > > Every time that I sit down to work on the GUI, I > find something more > interesting to do. I frankly don''t care enough if > Shorewall has a GUI to > expend the energy to write one and it is time that I > admitted that fact to > myself. This is not to say that I don''t support > fully the efforts of > folks like John Lodge who are working to provide a > GUI; I''m simpley not > going to build one myself. > > 3. I''m going to monitor the list must less closely. > > I appreciate any help all of you can give me to help > pick up the slack. > > ----------------- > I want to make it clear that I am in no way > abandoning Shorewall or my > commitment to it. I am just going to focus my energy > in those areas where > I have interest and where I think I can make > Shorewall better. > > -Tom > -- > Tom Eastep \ Shorewall - iptables made easy > AIM: tmeastep \ http://www.shorewall.net > ICQ: #60745924 \ teastep@shorewall.net > > > > _______________________________________________ > Shorewall-users mailing list > Shorewall-users@shorewall.net >http://www.shorewall.net/mailman/listinfo/shorewall-users __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Games - play chess, backgammon, pool and more http://games.yahoo.com/
On Fri, 26 Apr 2002, Eric Jorgensen wrote:> Do you have a paypal account? I don''t believe that > I''m not the only one on the list who feels the urge to > compensate you financially, even if just a little bit, > for your hard work. Maybe an amazon.com wish list? I > know someone asked you about it in the past.... :-) >Thanks, but no thanks -- I was never in this for anything but the fun.> Good luck in your future endeavors! >Please understand that I am still going to be here and actively developing and supporting Shorewall -- I just won''t quit as involved as I have been up to now. -Tom -- Tom Eastep \ Shorewall - iptables made easy AIM: tmeastep \ http://www.shorewall.net ICQ: #60745924 \ teastep@shorewall.net