I would love to see podcasters adopt the Speex format to deliver clear speech audio at wideband or ultra-wideband formats. However, podcasters want something that can easily play on Windows, Macs, and even Linux web browsers. The Speex website has some nice audio demos, but it doesn't actually offer any HTML embedded samples using actual Speex format. Would there be a way to do this with Speex and have a simple downloadable web plugin? George -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.xiph.org/pipermail/speex-dev/attachments/20061002/84292bb9/attachment.html
On windows, illi's excellent Ogg DirectShow filter will do (http://www.illiminable.com/ogg/). On MacOS X, I think there's a QT component that will do the trick, but I'm not sure where to get it. On Linux, gstreamer, xine and other frameworks will handle Speex fine. On Symbian mobile phone, you might have to use the command-line speexdec, though ;-) Jean-Marc George Ou wrote:> I would love to see podcasters adopt the Speex format to deliver clear > speech audio at wideband or ultra-wideband formats. However, podcasters > want something that can easily play on Windows, Macs, and even Linux web > browsers. The Speex website has some nice audio demos, but it doesn't > actually offer any HTML embedded samples using actual Speex format. > Would there be a way to do this with Speex and have a simple > downloadable web plugin? > > > George > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Speex-dev mailing list > Speex-dev@xiph.org > http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/speex-dev
Ah, but speex.org should lead by example. Instead of posting wav files, why not post the actual speex files as well? Then make it plaingly obvious for people to download the plugins with links to the page you just posted. George -----Original Message----- From: Jean-Marc Valin [mailto:jean-marc.valin@usherbrooke.ca] Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 12:59 AM To: George Ou Cc: speex-dev@xiph.org Subject: Re: [Speex-dev] How to get podcasters to adopt Speex? On windows, illi's excellent Ogg DirectShow filter will do (http://www.illiminable.com/ogg/). On MacOS X, I think there's a QT component that will do the trick, but I'm not sure where to get it. On Linux, gstreamer, xine and other frameworks will handle Speex fine. On Symbian mobile phone, you might have to use the command-line speexdec, though ;-) Jean-Marc George Ou wrote:> I would love to see podcasters adopt the Speex format to deliver clear > speech audio at wideband or ultra-wideband formats. However, > podcasters want something that can easily play on Windows, Macs, and > even Linux web browsers. The Speex website has some nice audio demos, > but it doesn't actually offer any HTML embedded samples using actual Speexformat.> Would there be a way to do this with Speex and have a simple > downloadable web plugin? > > > George > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > > _______________________________________________ > Speex-dev mailing list > Speex-dev@xiph.org > http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/speex-dev
Bertie Coopersmith
2006-Oct-03 09:43 UTC
[Speex-dev] How to get podcasters to adopt Speex?
If its just speech that you're after, why not narrowband (8kHZ) speex. I have found that to be perfectly adequate at about a seven'th of the file size of a typical (music quality) MP3. The other good thing is that neither server nor client needs to bother with streaming software or streaming protocol - http will do. I need this because my web host does not allow user-supplied server software on its free web pages. I just upload my .spx files (mono,8-bit samples, 8000 samples/sec, 8KHz). which may have originated from various sources: Live recording, radio, TV, or Web. My listening audience consists of family and friends, small in number but spread over 4 continents. At the crudest level they can do a binary download and convert to .wav with speexdec (speexdec.exe in the case of Windows). However, they can also play direct to a unix/linux client by means of curl url | speexdec - where the url string is http...spx . In the case of Windows XP this becomes curl.exe url | speexdec.exe - I've elaborated this into a .cmd script which obviates the need to enter a long url plus filename and also, it displays a companion .txt file while playing the .spx:- @echo off rem Play a speex (.spx) file on rem Bertie's website. If there is a companion .txt rem file, display it while playing the .spx. cd c:\...\wbin rem In this directory you keep, amongst other things, rem the win32 executables known as Unix utilities. rem In particular this script depends on curl.exe, rem speexdec.exe, sed.exe, fgrep.exe, cat.exe, rem echo.exe, tr.exe and nl.exe. rem delete scratch files left over from a previous run:- del /q spxt* sndt* txtt* set url=http://www.coopersmith.demon.co.uk echo Speex audio files on %url%: echo ----------------------------- rem remove the html tags curl -s %url% | sed -e "s+</A>++" -e "s/^.*>//" > spxt2 fgrep -c .spx spxt2 > nul || goto nospx echo ---------- Speex files ------------------- fgrep .spx spxt2 | nl echo ------------------------------------------ set /p num=Enter the number of the one to play and press SEND: echo. fgrep .spx spxt2 | sed -n %num%p > spxt3 echo.exe -n "curl -f %url%/" > sndtout1 cat sndtout1 spxt3 >sndtout.cmd sed -e s/-f/-fs/ -e s/\.spx/.txt/ sndtout.cmd > txttout.cmd txttout | more pause sndtout | speexdec - exit :nospx echo No .spx files found on %url% pause This works well on both dial-up and broadband. However, its not gui. I have found that with Foobar2000 on Windows XP one can open a url to one of the .spx files on my website and play it. One can even pause and play from a different position in the file. This cannot be done with the curl command file. I tried doing the same with illiminable's Ogg DirectShow filter but without success. Bertie Coopersmith
George Ou wrote:> I would love to see podcasters adopt the Speex format to deliver clear > speech audio at wideband or ultra-wideband formats. However, podcasters > want something that can easily play on Windows, Macs, and even Linux web > browsers. The Speex website has some nice audio demos, but it doesn't > actually offer any HTML embedded samples using actual Speex format. Would > there be a way to do this with Speex and have a simple downloadable web > plugin? > > > George > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Speex-dev mailing list > Speex-dev@xiph.org > http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/speex-devThe best way would be for the iPod and other audio players to support Ogg. I have lots of books on cd and podcasts that I would love to have in ogg but none of my players support it, Very few of the music players care about speech recordings so they see no benefit to putting Speex on their players.