Mark Rousell
2020-Apr-17 15:55 UTC
[Samba] Status of Windows Search Protocol support in Samba?
I've been trying to Google this but have not found any definitive answers. Does Samba currently support Windows Search Protocol[1]? I did find these lecture slides from a few years ago (five years?) but they don't tell me about the current status: https://sambaxp.org/archive_data/SambaXP2015-SLIDES/wed/track1/sambaxp2015-wed-track1-Noel_Power-WindowSearchProtocolAndSamba.pdf (by Noel Power of SUSE). If you're wondering what I'm talking about, here is a brief explanation: The Windows Search tool on a Windows Vista/7/8/10/2008/2012/2016/2019 computer normally indexes and searches local files. However, it can also query the Windows Search index on a remote Vista/7/8/10/2008/2012/2016/2019 computer. Note that this is not indexing the remote files: It is actually querying the remote index on the remote computer. This remote query is done over via the Windows Search Protocol using SMB as the transport. I'd like to know if Samba supports this type of query. I should point out that it would require the remote/server computer to be running some kind of indexing tool and for Samba on that computer to have the ability to query the indexing tool's index, but that is all certainly feasible. Clearly this would be useful in many scenarios but especially with querying an index on a NAS. ( As an aside, what I describe above should not be confused with so called 'Federated Search' which commonly uses the OpenSearch[2] protocol. That said, OpenSearch can be used to expose the content index on a server to remote queries in a standardised way but it's not the same as WSP above. ) Footnotes:- 1: Windows Search Protocol: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/openspecs/windows_protocols/ms-wsp/ 2: OpenSearch: http://opensearch.org, redirects to https://github.com/dewitt/opensearch -- Mark Rousell
Mark Rousell
2020-Apr-19 08:57 UTC
[Samba] Status of Windows Search Protocol support in Samba?
On 17/04/2020 16:55, Mark Rousell via samba wrote:> I've been trying to Google this but have not found any definitive > answers. Does Samba currently support Windows Search Protocol[1]?Has no one at all got any ideas about where look or ask about this? Gotta be someone who uses this or would like to see it. ;-) -- Mark Rousell
Ralph Boehme
2020-Apr-19 09:25 UTC
[Samba] Status of Windows Search Protocol support in Samba?
Am 4/17/20 um 5:55 PM schrieb Mark Rousell via samba:> I've been trying to Google this but have not found any definitive > answers. Does Samba currently support Windows Search Protocol[1]?short answer: no. Last time I talked to Noel this is still a multi-weeks effort (iirc) getting it finished, polished and integrated into master. -slow -- Ralph Boehme, Samba Team https://samba.org/ Samba Developer, SerNet GmbH https://sernet.de/en/samba/ GPG-Fingerprint FAE2C6088A24252051C559E4AA1E9B7126399E46 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 833 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: <http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/samba/attachments/20200419/2fe4566a/signature.sig>
Mark Rousell
2020-Apr-19 09:49 UTC
[Samba] Status of Windows Search Protocol support in Samba?
On 19/04/2020 10:25, Ralph Boehme via samba wrote:> Am 4/17/20 um 5:55 PM schrieb Mark Rousell via samba: >> I've been trying to Google this but have not found any definitive >> answers. Does Samba currently support Windows Search Protocol[1]? > short answer: no. > > Last time I talked to Noel this is still a multi-weeks effort (iirc) > getting it finished, polished and integrated into master. > > -slowRalph, Thank you very much. I appreciate the response. Yes, I can imagine that integrating this is a non-trivial effort. Oddly enough, perhaps, I'd have thought that one of the hardest parts would be interfacing with a host's index/search tool and figuring out how to degrade sensibly if there is no compatible tool. On Linux operating systems (and perhaps BSD too, not sure), Tracker, Baloo, Nepomuk (on old installations), Beagle (on yet older installations), or Recoll might need to be interface targets. Presumably Spotlight on Mac allows querying by API but I know nothing of it. And Windows Search on Windows does allow querying by multiple APIs but, in practice, would be the lowest priority to act as a server where WSP over Samba is concerned. I feel I should be contributing to getting this done but my C skills are extremely limited. -- Mark Rousell
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