samba - Dec 2015 - Fwd: Functionality of Nmbd at Active Directory mode of Samba4 !

P. p. S.: Oh, I have remember.
Quite important thing.
There are some soft where is not address line where you can put
\\server\folder address to access or you can not get access resource via
\\server\folder, it only via computer list.
For example: Far.
By typing \\server - there is error.
Only: Alt+F1/F2, network, MS Windows Network, GroupName, CompName.
If it is visible - Samba4 with Nmbd, it is here at list and it is
accessible, if Samba4 as DC (no Nmbd) , that is no in list and not
accessible.

> Obviously to you, the lack of network browsing is a big deal, to others,
> it is just not that important.
Not to me only, also to people whom I know of and to people whom know
those people of. :))
> There are things required that take
> priority over this, so until one of the main developers (or more likely,
> their employer) require it, network browsing will probably not get
> 'fixed'.
Ok. I have already understood it. :)
> If you can fix it, you will need to supply patches against
> samba-master to either samba-technical or >
https://github.com/samba-team/samba <https://github.com/samba-team/samba>
I think simple moving code from nmbd s3 to s4 will not be applicable.
Anyway thanks.

P. S.: There is one more functionality question: Samba4 fileserver (acts as
fileserver now, with Nmbd also) but with LDAP as backend.
But it are messages of other topic.

On 05 Dec 2015, at 14:43, CpServiceSPb . <cpservicespb at gmail.com>
wrote:
>> Obviously to you, the lack of network browsing is a big deal, to
others,
>> it is just not that important.
> Not to me only, also to people whom I know of and to people whom know
> those people of. :))
I really don't see the need for browsing an AD DC. I prefer it does the job
it's supposed to do well which means that the code should be appropriately
streamlined. You can still use a different mode of Samba if all you need is to
quickly share some files.

Even in a very small AD environment, you should implement a separate Samba
member for file serving purposes. You might, like me, decide to do this in a
virtual instance rather than adding a second machine. This allows you to be
compliant with the AD concept and still do all on one machine which is perfectly
fine for the home office.

What's more, if your office ever starts to grow and you decide a single
server doesn't cut it anymore, you can always and easily move the virtual
instance to a separate server with very little reconfiguration, and without
touching the DC instance.

Viktor

Greetings, CpServiceSPb .!
> P. p. S.: Oh, I have remember.
> Quite important thing.
> There are some soft where is not address line where you can put
> \\server\folder address to access or you can not get access resource via
> \\server\folder, it only via computer list.
> For example: Far.
> By typing \\server - there is error.
net:\\server

Sometimes, you have to read documentation.
> Only: Alt+F1/F2, network, MS Windows Network, GroupName, CompName.
> If it is visible - Samba4 with Nmbd, it is here at list and it is
> accessible, if Samba4 as DC (no Nmbd) , that is no in list and not
> accessible.
That's simply not true.
And you could always use 'cd \\server\share' or
'goto:\\server\share\'.

That doesn't make the invisibility of DC in the network neighborhood any
less annoying.
Not all companies are as "small" as Airbus. Some barely can afford a
standalone
server, and even that necessity is highly questioned by the administration.


-- 
With best regards,
Andrey Repin
Saturday, December 5, 2015 19:52:37

Sorry for my terrible english...

> net:\\server
> Sometimes, you have to read documentation.
Oh, no.
It have to do users, who use Far. :)
I remembered just first camt to my head. :))
And try to explain it of nubers of users.
Especially acconuters...
You as Russians can know it.
I know some other soft where there is no such ability (access by
\\server\folder)
But can not remember it at the time.
> That's simply not true.
> And you could always use 'cd \\server\share' or
'goto:\\server\share\'.
You are not right.
It is _partially_ true.
>> If it is visible - Samba4 with Nmbd, it is here at list ...
But this is true. :))
>> if Samba4 as DC (no Nmbd) , that is no in list
And it is true. :))
> That doesn't make the invisibility of DC in the network neighborhood
any
less annoying.
> Not all companies are as "small" as Airbus. Some barely can
afford a
standalone
> server, and even that necessity is highly questioned by the
administration.

But I didn' t understand, are you "for" or "against"
presenting Nmb
functionality at Samba DC part code ?

So, I offer people to combine ther efforts to make code of Nmb within Saba4
DC together instead of posting messages. :))

P. S.:
> Sorry for my terrible english...
I know a little bit Russian. We can duscuss privately by Russian.

2015-12-05 14:15 GMT+01:00 CpServiceSPb . <cpservicespb at gmail.com>:
> P. p. S.: Oh, I have remember.
> Quite important thing.
> There are some soft where is not address line where you can put
> \\server\folder address to access or you can not get access resource via
> \\server\folder, it only via computer list.
> For example: Far.
> By typing \\server - there is error.
> Only: Alt+F1/F2, network, MS Windows Network, GroupName, CompName.
> If it is visible - Samba4 with Nmbd, it is here at list and it is
> accessible, if Samba4 as DC (no Nmbd) , that is no in list and not
> accessible.

 You can certainly mount \\server\folder into a new drive (map a drive to
letter)I expect Far is able to access all drives declared on your computer.

Now I understand this process needs you to work more than before. Anyway, I
can't see there a show stopper...