dovecot - May 2020 - Ms Exchange vs dovecot

On 08 May 2020, at 19:02, Eric Broch <ebroch at whitehorsetc.com>
wrote:
> Microsoft and Bill Gates are like inoperable tumors.
Your outdated knee-jerking is entirely off-topic. Please find a political list
if you want to continue your screed.



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The way I see it, the longer I put it off, the better it'll end up
	being. Heck, school doesn't start for another 43 minutes.

My, my, did not expect this discussion. It is our own fault we are stuck 
with google and microsoft monopolies. If small companies would combine 
effort (resources and cash) and would not reinvent/create the wheel 
constantly on our own little islands, we would have much better 
products. So respect for the dovecot team.

The reason I am asking is that, the public folder solution is not as it 
was in 2000. Exchange 2016+ do not support CDO etc. Nobody transitioned 
between the two?

 1. public folder can be implemented with a public mailbox?

 2. authorize users via groups access to mailboxes/folders of the public 
folder/mailbox. I think I saw ACL's with dovecot, does this compare to 
'folder permissions' 

 3. is it possible with sieve to apply a rule on any mailbox/folder? 
Thus if I 'drag' a message to a folder, the sieve rule is activated?

First of all, Exchange is a complete solution. Dovecot is a imap/pop3 
server ( a good one, sure... )

So replacing exchange means to find an integrated solution.

about the questions: public folder was removed in exchange. IMHO they 
made the right choice :)

There is a different thing, need different tools and different client 
app. You can create shared mailboxes ( i think it's a little demand for 
that, but yes)

Sieve rules should work ( never tried actually)

I can see a need for an integration with folders only when you work with 
webmail (like roundcube) . In this? scenario ( a liitle bit like gmail) 
is good to see the folders and attach them ( or save)

I use the kolab plugins for roundcube and there is a sort of integration 
between the chwala ( files plugin) and any webdav capable file server ( 
I use owncloud/nextcloud). So you can share files, edit etc using 
owncloud but also attach them and save them from webmail. You can find a 
lot of plugins in owncloud to deal with files, even editing with 
onlyoffice . IMHO, that's the way, there is no need to create a client 
app to deal with all; maybe other people will not agree but...



On 5/9/20 1:07 PM, Marc Roos wrote:
>   
> My, my, did not expect this discussion. It is our own fault we are stuck
> with google and microsoft monopolies. If small companies would combine
> effort (resources and cash) and would not reinvent/create the wheel
> constantly on our own little islands, we would have much better
> products. So respect for the dovecot team.
>
> The reason I am asking is that, the public folder solution is not as it
> was in 2000. Exchange 2016+ do not support CDO etc. Nobody transitioned
> between the two?
>
>   1. public folder can be implemented with a public mailbox?
>
>   2. authorize users via groups access to mailboxes/folders of the public
> folder/mailbox. I think I saw ACL's with dovecot, does this compare to
> 'folder permissions'
>
>   3. is it possible with sieve to apply a rule on any mailbox/folder?
> Thus if I 'drag' a message to a folder, the sieve rule is
activated?
>
>