Hi All, please be kind, this is my first e-mail to the list :-)
I actively support CentOS based e-mail servers running Dovecot,
Sendmail, Spammassassin and 3 x SOGo based setups.
Dovecot is my goto IMAP server and have used it and modifications to it
to net excellent results for years.
Then we have people who insist on only using Outlook (and in some
instances the MS Live Messenger thingy).
Some shenanigans in recent years have arose with using sub-folders in
the Outlook clients (2013 and 2016).
Traditionally, placing a "/" after the name of a newly desired e-mail
folder has netted the result of something like:
"Rentals/"
creating:
/u/home/someuser/mail/Rentals/
Under which users then create actual e-mail folders under the
"Rentals"
Linux directory as such.
With Outlook 2013 and 2016 this seems to have stopped working and so I
implemented a work-around where the user creates a normal folder,
example "Rentals++", and I have written a cron script that trawls the
$HOMEs each minute and if it finds a folder with a "++" at the end, it
creates the folder as a directory, so:
/u/home/someuser/mail/Rentals++
becomes:
/u/home/someuser/mail/Rentals/
and adds this new subscription to their .subscription folder. It also
sends an e-mail to the user advising that the new folder is created and
they can proceed to use the "Rentals" folder for adding sub-folders
(as
in real text based mail folders).
The script was a quick work-around one weekend in a mad flurry to get
things working and to date works but is not 'user-proof'. So I am now
looking at developing an internal web interface to do the same thing and
hoping with more controls, has no or far less margin for user error.
Long times of Outlook folder refreshes don't help and users sometimes
end up with issues that require my Linux command line help.
I have been trawling e-mail forums for some time now and have not seen
any other work-arounds (or perhaps I am living under a rock) but before
I embark on this web interface adventure, I just wanted to make sure I
had not missed some fundamental 'bit' that I should be observing.
All servers are either CentOS 6.9 (or slightly less) and CentOS 7 with
the latest updates and for things like Thunderbird and Roundcube and
SOGo, work well. I need to experiment with the whole "/" for these but
I
am currently driven by the enforced Outlook chains.
Any input from you guys on whether this is my best approach or 'hey
mate, just do this', would be much appreciated.
I am happy to share my travels script/web-wise if this is the only
option to date.
--
As always, I remain at your service.
Kindest Regards,
David.M.Clark (Director - Senior Linux/UNIX Consultant)
E-mail: david at davrom.com
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Hi, What we do, on the dovecot side, is: mail_location = maildir:~/Maildir:LAYOUT=fs:DIRNAME=mAildir See: https://wiki2.dovecot.org/MailLocation/Maildir This has been working out very nicely for many years. I'm not sure though that there is a way to 'move' to that config without having to basically migrate all your mailboxes. MJ On 10/06/2017 04:08 AM, David.M.Clark wrote:> Hi All, please be kind, this is my first e-mail to the list :-) > > I actively support CentOS based e-mail servers running Dovecot, > Sendmail, Spammassassin and 3 x SOGo based setups. > > Dovecot is my goto IMAP server and have used it and modifications to it > to net excellent results for years. > > Then we have people who insist on only using Outlook (and in some > instances the MS Live Messenger thingy). > > Some shenanigans in recent years have arose with using sub-folders in > the Outlook clients (2013 and 2016). > > Traditionally, placing a "/" after the name of a newly desired e-mail > folder has netted the result of something like: > > "Rentals/" > > creating: > > /u/home/someuser/mail/Rentals/ > > Under which users then create actual e-mail folders under the "Rentals" > Linux directory as such. > > With Outlook 2013 and 2016 this seems to have stopped working and so I > implemented a work-around where the user creates a normal folder, > example "Rentals++", and I have written a cron script that trawls the > $HOMEs each minute and if it finds a folder with a "++" at the end, it > creates the folder as a directory, so: > > /u/home/someuser/mail/Rentals++ > > becomes: > > /u/home/someuser/mail/Rentals/ > > and adds this new subscription to their .subscription folder. It also > sends an e-mail to the user advising that the new folder is created and > they can proceed to use the "Rentals" folder for adding sub-folders (as > in real text based mail folders). > > The script was a quick work-around one weekend in a mad flurry to get > things working and to date works but is not 'user-proof'. So I am now > looking at developing an internal web interface to do the same thing and > hoping with more controls, has no or far less margin for user error. > Long times of Outlook folder refreshes don't help and users sometimes > end up with issues that require my Linux command line help. > > I have been trawling e-mail forums for some time now and have not seen > any other work-arounds (or perhaps I am living under a rock) but before > I embark on this web interface adventure, I just wanted to make sure I > had not missed some fundamental 'bit' that I should be observing. > > All servers are either CentOS 6.9 (or slightly less) and CentOS 7 with > the latest updates and for things like Thunderbird and Roundcube and > SOGo, work well. I need to experiment with the whole "/" for these but I > am currently driven by the enforced Outlook chains. > > Any input from you guys on whether this is my best approach or 'hey > mate, just do this', would be much appreciated. > > I am happy to share my travels script/web-wise if this is the only > option to date. >
Thanks for the reply MJ. Good to hear it works in MailDir format - might need to look at this. To date I have only had this issue with Outlook and for me personally on Fedora with Thunderbird, I tend to keep a heap of e-mail folders without sub-foldering and have my own little Linux 'utopia' of annually archiving folders etc using the Linux scripting environment, so I never have these issues..... but is a client requirement so will see what I can do from here - they were a bit excited about a web interface to do the "/" bit to get a "master/sub-folder" working so.... I still may implement this if MailDir is too much of a hassle. Thanks again for your reply. On 06/10/17 16:42, mj wrote:> Hi, > > What we do, on the dovecot side, is: > > mail_location = maildir:~/Maildir:LAYOUT=fs:DIRNAME=mAildir > > See: https://wiki2.dovecot.org/MailLocation/Maildir > > This has been working out very nicely for many years. > > I'm not sure though that there is a way to 'move' to that config without > having to basically migrate all your mailboxes. > > MJ > > On 10/06/2017 04:08 AM, David.M.Clark wrote: >> Hi All, please be kind, this is my first e-mail to the list :-) >> >> I actively support CentOS based e-mail servers running Dovecot, >> Sendmail, Spammassassin and 3 x SOGo based setups. >> >> Dovecot is my goto IMAP server and have used it and modifications to >> it to net excellent results for years. >> >> Then we have people who insist on only using Outlook (and in some >> instances the MS Live Messenger thingy). >> >> Some shenanigans in recent years have arose with using sub-folders in >> the Outlook clients (2013 and 2016). >> >> Traditionally, placing a "/" after the name of a newly desired e-mail >> folder has netted the result of something like: >> >> "Rentals/" >> >> creating: >> >> /u/home/someuser/mail/Rentals/ >> >> Under which users then create actual e-mail folders under the >> "Rentals" Linux directory as such. >> >> With Outlook 2013 and 2016 this seems to have stopped working and so I >> implemented a work-around where the user creates a normal folder, >> example "Rentals++", and I have written a cron script that trawls the >> $HOMEs each minute and if it finds a folder with a "++" at the end, it >> creates the folder as a directory, so: >> >> /u/home/someuser/mail/Rentals++ >> >> becomes: >> >> /u/home/someuser/mail/Rentals/ >> >> and adds this new subscription to their .subscription folder. It also >> sends an e-mail to the user advising that the new folder is created >> and they can proceed to use the "Rentals" folder for adding >> sub-folders (as in real text based mail folders). >> >> The script was a quick work-around one weekend in a mad flurry to get >> things working and to date works but is not 'user-proof'. So I am now >> looking at developing an internal web interface to do the same thing >> and hoping with more controls, has no or far less margin for user >> error. Long times of Outlook folder refreshes don't help and users >> sometimes end up with issues that require my Linux command line help. >> >> I have been trawling e-mail forums for some time now and have not seen >> any other work-arounds (or perhaps I am living under a rock) but >> before I embark on this web interface adventure, I just wanted to make >> sure I had not missed some fundamental 'bit' that I should be observing. >> >> All servers are either CentOS 6.9 (or slightly less) and CentOS 7 with >> the latest updates and for things like Thunderbird and Roundcube and >> SOGo, work well. I need to experiment with the whole "/" for these but >> I am currently driven by the enforced Outlook chains. >> >> Any input from you guys on whether this is my best approach or 'hey >> mate, just do this', would be much appreciated. >> >> I am happy to share my travels script/web-wise if this is the only >> option to date. >>-- As always, I remain at your service. Kindest Regards, David.M.Clark (Director - Senior Linux/UNIX Consultant) =-------------------------------------------------------------------------- Davrom Consulting Pty Ltd Mobile: 0418763124 PO Box 1644, Sunnybank Hills, 4109 E-mail (Work): david at davrom.com ABN: 81 096 990 804 E-mail (Priv): dmc1961 at dmc1961.id.au Website: http://davrom.com Skype: dmc1961 Podcast: http://ldup.com.au Google: dmc1961 at gmail.com =-------------------------------------------------------------------------- Specialising in: Linux (Fedora/RedHat/CentOS), UNIX, SCO, MikroTik, Networking/Internet, E-mail/Web Technologies =-------------------------------------------------------------------------- Please note: Any e-mail communication bearing this signature is for the exclusive purpose of the sender and is not for publication without the expressed permission of the sender or respective sender's organisation. =--------------------------------------------------------------------------=