CentOS - Jun 2020 - HP vs. Brother Printers: Use with Centos/Fedora

If you had to rate which printer brand works better with Linux (Fedora and
Centos), what would it be?

TIA,

Jay

On Sat, 27 Jun 2020 17:33:39 -0400
Jay Hart wrote:
> If you had to rate which printer brand works better with Linux (Fedora and
> Centos), what would it be?
Any Brother printer that I've ever had the misfortune to have to deal with
either didn't work at all or if could be made to work, it didn't work
for long.

If it's a Brother, run away as fast as you can.  They're the cheapest
crappiest thing you can possibly imagine.

My wife makes quilts and says the same thing about Brother sewing machines.

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Centos 8, I should specify...

Jay
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Centos), what would it be?
>
> TIA,
>
> Jay
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On Sat, Jun 27, 2020 at 2:44 PM Frank Cox <theatre at sasktel.net> wrote:
>
> Any Brother printer that I've ever had the misfortune to have to deal
with
> either didn't work at all or if could be made to work, it didn't
work for
> long.
>
> If it's a Brother, run away as fast as you can.  They're the
cheapest
> crappiest thing you can possibly imagine.
>
odd, I've had very good luck with Brother B&W laser printers.   Supplies
are far cheaper than HP or whatever, my MFC-8810DW sits on my LAN (via
ethernet although it has wifi too) and lets everything in the house print
to it, and it can scan to a SMB file server without needing any special
software, just push a few buttons on the printer, it scans either flatbed
or sheet fed (single or double sided) and a PDF appears on the file share a
few seconds later.    Brother supports both LPR and CUPS.


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  recycling used bits in santa cruz

I've been running an HP MFP281 for a year or two now and it functions 
well.  There are some downsides though to be aware of:

* HPLIP doesn't support all HP printers, and not as quickly as you might 
wish, so be prepared to find the nearest model for CUPS.

* HP have sharp practice over toner cartridges.  To be clear, software 
updates will invalidate full third party cartridges which end up on the 
skip.  The phrase "sod the customer" comes to mind.

On the plus side, quality is good.  Colour is fine and the resolution of 
the scanner is good.  The paper feed mechanisms both for printing and 
for scanning are fine.

HTH,
Martin

On 27/06/2020 22:49, Jay Hart wrote:
> Centos 8, I should specify...
> 
> Jay
> 
>> If you had to rate which printer brand works better with Linux (Fedora
and Centos), what would it be?
>>
>> TIA,
>>
>> Jay
>>
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J Martin Rushton MBCS

On Sat, 2020-06-27 at 15:44 -0600, Frank Cox wrote:
> On Sat, 27 Jun 2020 17:33:39 -0400
> Jay Hart wrote:
> 
> > 
> > If you had to rate which printer brand works better with Linux
> > (Fedora and
> > Centos), what would it be?
> Any Brother printer that I've ever had the misfortune to have to deal
> with either didn't work at all or if could be made to work, it
didn't
> work for long.
> 
> If it's a Brother, run away as fast as you can.??They're the
cheapest
> crappiest thing you can possibly imagine.
> 
> My wife makes quilts and says the same thing about Brother sewing
> machines.
> 
I can't speak to the sewing machines, but I have to say that I've had
very good luck with Brother printers. ?However, we have to be honest
and acknowledge that I'm talking about LASER printers, not the $%^&*
inkjet silliness.

In my DEFINITELY not-so-humble opinion, the "run away as fast as you
can" advice applies to ALL inkjets that are intended for home use.

The only real differences I'm aware of between Brother and HP LASER
printers are price, and the fact that the HP drivers are usually
included in the distribution by default, and you have to download and
install the Brother drivers. ?I'm sitting next to a Brother MFC L-
2750DW that is a year or so old, and it does everything I need it to.

As always, YMMV.

-- 
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"God, root, what is difference ?"	Piter from UserFriendly

On 28/06/20 9:44 am, Frank Cox wrote:
> On Sat, 27 Jun 2020 17:33:39 -0400
> Jay Hart wrote:
>
>> If you had to rate which printer brand works better with Linux (Fedora
and
>> Centos), what would it be?
> Any Brother printer that I've ever had the misfortune to have to deal
with either didn't work at all or if could be made to work, it didn't
work for long.
>
> If it's a Brother, run away as fast as you can.  They're the
cheapest crappiest thing you can possibly imagine.
>
> My wife makes quilts and says the same thing about Brother sewing machines.
>
Cannot comment on sewing machines, however I always head to brother for 
laser printers. I don't do inkjet ever, as the cost per page doesn't fit
my use case and dried out ink cartridges drive me nuts.

Great thing about brother is they really support linux! yes you do need 
to visit their web site but they offer drivers and they seem to provide 
access to all the printer's features.

Only gotcha I've had is trying to use alternative toner cartridges - 
that really didn't go well at all, got brother product and it was good 
as new - go figure.

HTH

On Sat, Jun 27, 2020 at 03:44:00PM -0600, Frank Cox
wrote:
> On Sat, 27 Jun 2020 17:33:39 -0400
> Jay Hart wrote:
> 
> > If you had to rate which printer brand works better with Linux (Fedora
and
> > Centos), what would it be?
> 
> Any Brother printer that I've ever had the misfortune to have to deal
with either didn't work at all or if could be made to work, it didn't
work for long.
> 
> If it's a Brother, run away as fast as you can.  They're the
cheapest crappiest thing you can possibly imagine.
> 
> My wife makes quilts and says the same thing about Brother sewing machines.
Sewing machines, I know nothing, not Brother machines anyway.

We've had a few different Brother laser printers here (at home) and
they've been great.

The first one, a HL2070N, when first connected (via USB at that time)
caused a popup window (On Centos, probably 5.x) saying brother printer
found, do I want to configure it now? I did, and it just worked.

Newer ones may require Brother's drivers, but they exist and work.

My newer HL-L2360D also works with one of the default CUPS drivers
on C7, though I forget which one. Discovered this only after using
the Brother drivers for a year or two.

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On 28/06/20 9:33 am, Jay Hart wrote:
> If you had to rate which printer brand works better with Linux (Fedora and
Centos), what would it be?
I'm currently on a Brother MFC-J4620DW and I recommend it 
wholeheartedly.  Others here have recommended brother for laser printing 
but I also think they're great ink jet printers.  Because you're not 
replacing the print head every time you replace the ink cartridge it 
cuts back on ink cost considerably and I have had no problems using 
3rd-party ink cartridges with it which really bring the cost down big 
time.  You can order sets of 3rd-party cartidges online for next to 
nothing, and I can count on two fingers the number of times I've 
received a dud cartridge.

I wouldn't touch an HP with a ten foot pole, though.


Peter

On 6/27/20 5:33 PM, Jay Hart wrote:
> If you had to rate which printer brand works better with Linux (Fedora and
Centos), what would it be?
> 
> TIA,
> 
> Jay
> 
I have an HP Laser Jet Pro M402n connected on my network.  I used to 
work just fine from CentOS 6 but recently no joy.  Something broke and 
I'm not fixing it because CentOS 6 will be EOL soon and I'm in the 
process changing over all my systems to CentOS 8.

 From CentOS 8 there's no issues as far a plain paper printing is concerned.

When I comes to printing on envelopes I just this evening won a battle 
with the printer when printing on #6 3/4 envelopes.  I resolved the 
problem by setting the printer to print on C5 envelopes, and LibreOffice 
Writer to use the same C5 envelope.  The C5 envelope is considerably 
larger that the #6 3/4 envelope.  With some tweeking of the location of 
the address on the document in LibreOffice Writer I got it to print the 
address on the #6 3/4 envelope in the right place.

The M402n does not support the #6 3/4 envelope directly.  You have to 
fiddle with it.  If you have to print on envelopes make sure that the 
printer you buy supports the envelope you want to print on unless you 
like fiddling.  Me, I'm a tuba player, not a fiddle player. YMMV

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