libvirt users - Jul 2020 - Emulated TPM devices and snapshots of running VMs

Hi,

I would like to clarify how to make snapshots of running VMs with
emulated TPM devices.  As far as I understand QEMU documentation, it's
possible to make snapshots of running VMs with TPM, but it's important
to retain the state of swtpm.  Does libvirt assist with that in any way
or is it completely user's responsibility?  libvirt pauses the VM
internally when making a snapshot, which should be the right moment to
copy the swtpm data, but the user doesn't have control over it.  Is
there a way to make a copy of swtpm data that is guaranteed to be
consistent with the snapshot?

Thank you,
Milan

Milan Zamazal <mzamazal@redhat.com> writes:
> Hi,
>
> I would like to clarify how to make snapshots of running VMs with
> emulated TPM devices.  As far as I understand QEMU documentation, it's
> possible to make snapshots of running VMs with TPM, but it's important
> to retain the state of swtpm.  Does libvirt assist with that in any way
> or is it completely user's responsibility?  libvirt pauses the VM
> internally when making a snapshot, which should be the right moment to
> copy the swtpm data, but the user doesn't have control over it.  Is
> there a way to make a copy of swtpm data that is guaranteed to be
> consistent with the snapshot?
No idea?
> Thank you,
> Milan

On Thu, Jul 09, 2020 at 14:14:32 +0200, Milan Zamazal
wrote:
> Milan Zamazal <mzamazal@redhat.com> writes:
> 
> > Hi,
> >
> > I would like to clarify how to make snapshots of running VMs with
> > emulated TPM devices.  As far as I understand QEMU documentation,
it's
> > possible to make snapshots of running VMs with TPM, but it's
important
> > to retain the state of swtpm.  Does libvirt assist with that in any
way
> > or is it completely user's responsibility?  libvirt pauses the VM
> > internally when making a snapshot, which should be the right moment to
> > copy the swtpm data, but the user doesn't have control over it. 
Is
> > there a way to make a copy of swtpm data that is guaranteed to be
> > consistent with the snapshot?
> 
> No idea?
I can comment only on the fact that libvirt doesn't do anything
regarding snapshots on a VM with TPM.