Peter Collingbourne via llvm-dev
2016-Oct-11 07:04 UTC
[llvm-dev] RFC: Absolute or "fixed address" symbols as immediate operands
On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at 8:31 PM, Chris Lattner <clattner at apple.com> wrote:> > On Oct 10, 2016, at 8:12 PM, Peter Collingbourne via llvm-dev < > llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org> wrote: > > Hi all, > > I wanted to summarise some discussion on llvm-commits [0,1] as an RFC, as > I felt it demanded wider circulation. > > Our support for references to absolute symbols is not very good. The > symbol will be resolved accurately in non-PIC code, but suboptimally: the > symbol reference cannot currently appear as the immediate operand of an > instruction, and the code generator cannot make any assumptions about the > value of the symbol (so for example, it could not use a R_X86_64_8 > relocation if the value is known to be in the range 0..255). > > In PIC mode, if the reference is not known to be DSO-local, the value is > loaded from the GOT (or a synthetic GOT entry), which again means > suboptimal code. If the reference is known to be DSO-local, the symbol will > be referenced with a PC relative relocation and therefore cannot be > resolved properly to an absolute value (c.f. > https://reviews.llvm.org/D19844). The latter case in particular would > seem to indicate that a representational change is required for correctness > to distinguish references to absolute symbols from references to regular > symbols. > > The specific change I have in mind is to allow !range metadata on > GlobalObjects. This would > be similar to existing !range metadata, but it would apply to the > "address" of the attached GlobalObject, rather than any value loaded from > it. Its presence on a GlobalObject would also imply that the address of the > GlobalObject is "fixed" at link time. Alongside !range we could potentially > use other sources of information, such as the relocation model, code model > and visibility, to identify "fixed" globals, although that can be done > separately. > > > Ok, I think I understand the use-case. > > I have been experimenting with a number of approaches to representation in > SDAG, and I have found one that seems to work best, and would be the least > intrusive (unfortunately most approaches to this problem are somewhat > intrusive). > > Specifically, I want to: > 1) move most of the body of ConstantSDNode to a new class, > ConstantIntSDNode, which would derives from ConstantSDNode. ConstantSDNode > would act as the base class for immediates-post-static-linking. Change > most references to ConstantSDNode in C++ code to refer to > ConstantIntSDNode. However, "imm" in tblgen code would continue to match > ConstantSDNode. > 2) introduce a new derived class of ConstantSDNode for references to > globals with !range metadata, and teach SDAG to use this new derived class > for fixed address references > > > ConstantSDNode is poorly named, and renaming it to ConstantIntSDNode is > probably the right thing to do independently of the other changes. > > That said, I don’t understand why you’d keep ConstantSDNode around and > introduce a new derived class of it. This seems like something that a new > “imm" immediate matcher would handle: it would match constants in a certain > range, or a GlobalAddressSDNode known-to-be-small. >To begin with: I'm not sure that GlobalAddressSDNode is the right node to use for these types of immediates. It seems that we have two broad classes of globals here: those with a fixed-at-link-time address (e.g. regular non-PIC symbols, absolute symbols) and those where the address needs to be computed (e.g. PC-relative addresses, TLS variables). To me it seems like the first class is much more similar to immediates than to the second class. That suggested to me that there ought to be two separate representations for global variables, where the former are "morally" immediates, and the latter are not (i.e. the existing GlobalAddressSDNode). I went over a couple of approaches for representing "moral" immediates in my llvm-commits post. The first one seems to be more like what you're suggesting:> - Introduce a new opcode for absolute symbol constants. This intuitivelyseemed like the least risky approach, as individual instructions could "opt in" to the new absolute symbol references. However, this seems hard to fit into the existing SDAG pattern matching engine, as the engine expects each "variable" to have a specific opcode. I tried adding special support for "either of the two constant opcodes" to the matcher, but I could not see a good way to do it without making fundamental changes to how patterns are matched.> > - Use the ISD::Constant opcode for absolute symbol constants, butintroduce a separate class for them. This also seemed problematic, as there is a strong assumption (both in existing SDAG code and in generated code) of a many-to-one mapping from opcodes to classes. We can solve part of the problem with the second approach with a base class for ISD::Constant. As I worked on that approach, I found that it did turn out to be a good fit overall: in many cases we're already adhering to a principle that an unrestricted immediate maps onto potentially relocatable bytes in the output file. The X86 and ARM backends illustrate this quite well: the X86 instruction set generally uses power-of-2 wide immediate forms that neatly map onto instruction bytes, and ARM generally uses compressed immediate forms (e.g. "mod_imm") which would naturally match only real constant integers. Using that principle, we can restrict (e.g.) ImmLeaf to constant integers (see https://reviews.llvm.org/D25355). In cases where this mapping isn't quite right, we can use more restrictive matchers. I'm still a little uneasy about the second approach, and would be interested in my first approach, but I'm not sure if it would be practical. Thanks, -- -- Peter -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.llvm.org/pipermail/llvm-dev/attachments/20161011/e08babff/attachment.html>
Chris Lattner via llvm-dev
2016-Oct-11 21:48 UTC
[llvm-dev] RFC: Absolute or "fixed address" symbols as immediate operands
On Oct 11, 2016, at 12:04 AM, Peter Collingbourne <peter at pcc.me.uk> wrote:>> I have been experimenting with a number of approaches to representation in SDAG, and I have found one that seems to work best, and would be the least intrusive (unfortunately most approaches to this problem are somewhat intrusive). >> >> Specifically, I want to: >> 1) move most of the body of ConstantSDNode to a new class, ConstantIntSDNode, which would derives from ConstantSDNode. ConstantSDNode would act as the base class for immediates-post-static-linking. Change most references to ConstantSDNode in C++ code to refer to ConstantIntSDNode. However, "imm" in tblgen code would continue to match ConstantSDNode. >> 2) introduce a new derived class of ConstantSDNode for references to globals with !range metadata, and teach SDAG to use this new derived class for fixed address references > > ConstantSDNode is poorly named, and renaming it to ConstantIntSDNode is probably the right thing to do independently of the other changes. > > That said, I don’t understand why you’d keep ConstantSDNode around and introduce a new derived class of it. This seems like something that a new “imm" immediate matcher would handle: it would match constants in a certain range, or a GlobalAddressSDNode known-to-be-small. > > To begin with: I'm not sure that GlobalAddressSDNode is the right node to use for these types of immediates. It seems that we have two broad classes of globals here: those with a fixed-at-link-time address (e.g. regular non-PIC symbols, absolute symbols) and those where the address needs to be computed (e.g. PC-relative addresses, TLS variables). To me it seems like the first class is much more similar to immediates than to the second class. That suggested to me that there ought to be two separate representations for global variables, where the former are "morally" immediates, and the latter are not (i.e. the existing GlobalAddressSDNode).I understand what you’re saying, but I don’t think that is the key issue here. The relevant SDNode subclasses are concerned with representing the structural input code (in this case a GlobalValue*) not about representing the target-specific concept at work here (this particular GV has an address known to fit in this specific relocation). The structure of SelectionDAG types like SDNode needs to be target independent, and target specific matchers are the ones that handle discrepancies.> I went over a couple of approaches for representing "moral" immediates in my llvm-commits post. The first one seems to be more like what you're suggesting: > > > - Introduce a new opcode for absolute symbol constants.If you mean a new ISD opcode, then I don’t think this makes sense. We already have an opcode for that represents the address of a global value, we should use it. “absolute symbol constants” are a special case of them, and using a predicate to handle matching them should work fine. What am I missing?> This intuitively seemed like the least risky approach, as individual instructions could "opt in" to the new absolute symbol references. However, this seems hard to fit into the existing SDAG pattern matching engine, as the engine expects each "variable" to have a specific opcode. I tried adding special support for "either of the two constant opcodes" to the matcher, but I could not see a good way to do it without making fundamental changes to how patterns are matched.I think you’ll have to define the matcher in C++ with ComplexPattern, analogously to how the addressing mode selection logic works. This allows you to specify multiple ISD nodes that it can match.> > - Use the ISD::Constant opcode for absolute symbol constants, but introduce a separate class for them. This also seemed problematic, as there is a strong assumption (both in existing SDAG code and in generated code) of a many-to-one mapping from opcodes to classes.This also doesn’t make sense to me. The fundamental issue you’re grappling with is that you have two different “input” concepts (small immediates, and globals whose absolute address fits in that range) that you want to handle the same way. You need to do something like ComplexPattern to handle this. -Chris -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.llvm.org/pipermail/llvm-dev/attachments/20161011/4ea917b3/attachment.html>
Peter Collingbourne via llvm-dev
2016-Oct-11 22:15 UTC
[llvm-dev] RFC: Absolute or "fixed address" symbols as immediate operands
On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 2:48 PM, Chris Lattner <clattner at apple.com> wrote:> On Oct 11, 2016, at 12:04 AM, Peter Collingbourne <peter at pcc.me.uk> wrote: > > I have been experimenting with a number of approaches to representation in >> SDAG, and I have found one that seems to work best, and would be the least >> intrusive (unfortunately most approaches to this problem are somewhat >> intrusive). >> >> Specifically, I want to: >> 1) move most of the body of ConstantSDNode to a new class, >> ConstantIntSDNode, which would derives from ConstantSDNode. ConstantSDNode >> would act as the base class for immediates-post-static-linking. Change >> most references to ConstantSDNode in C++ code to refer to >> ConstantIntSDNode. However, "imm" in tblgen code would continue to match >> ConstantSDNode. >> 2) introduce a new derived class of ConstantSDNode for references to >> globals with !range metadata, and teach SDAG to use this new derived class >> for fixed address references >> >> >> ConstantSDNode is poorly named, and renaming it to ConstantIntSDNode is >> probably the right thing to do independently of the other changes. >> >> That said, I don’t understand why you’d keep ConstantSDNode around and >> introduce a new derived class of it. This seems like something that a new >> “imm" immediate matcher would handle: it would match constants in a certain >> range, or a GlobalAddressSDNode known-to-be-small. >> > > To begin with: I'm not sure that GlobalAddressSDNode is the right node to > use for these types of immediates. It seems that we have two broad classes > of globals here: those with a fixed-at-link-time address (e.g. regular > non-PIC symbols, absolute symbols) and those where the address needs to be > computed (e.g. PC-relative addresses, TLS variables). To me it seems like > the first class is much more similar to immediates than to the second > class. That suggested to me that there ought to be two separate > representations for global variables, where the former are "morally" > immediates, and the latter are not (i.e. the existing GlobalAddressSDNode). > > > I understand what you’re saying, but I don’t think that is the key issue > here. The relevant SDNode subclasses are concerned with representing the > structural input code (in this case a GlobalValue*) not about representing > the target-specific concept at work here (this particular GV has an address > known to fit in this specific relocation). The structure of SelectionDAG > types like SDNode needs to be target independent, and target specific > matchers are the ones that handle discrepancies. > > > I went over a couple of approaches for representing "moral" immediates in > my llvm-commits post. The first one seems to be more like what you're > suggesting: > > > - Introduce a new opcode for absolute symbol constants. > > > If you mean a new ISD opcode, then I don’t think this makes sense. We > already have an opcode for that represents the address of a global value, > we should use it. “absolute symbol constants” are a special case of them, > and using a predicate to handle matching them should work fine. What am I > missing? > > This intuitively seemed like the least risky approach, as individual > instructions could "opt in" to the new absolute symbol references. However, > this seems hard to fit into the existing SDAG pattern matching engine, as > the engine expects each "variable" to have a specific opcode. I tried > adding special support for "either of the two constant opcodes" to the > matcher, but I could not see a good way to do it without making fundamental > changes to how patterns are matched. > > > I think you’ll have to define the matcher in C++ with ComplexPattern, > analogously to how the addressing mode selection logic works. This allows > you to specify multiple ISD nodes that it can match. > > > - Use the ISD::Constant opcode for absolute symbol constants, but > introduce a separate class for them. This also seemed problematic, as there > is a strong assumption (both in existing SDAG code and in generated code) > of a many-to-one mapping from opcodes to classes. > > > This also doesn’t make sense to me. The fundamental issue you’re > grappling with is that you have two different “input” concepts (small > immediates, and globals whose absolute address fits in that range) that you > want to handle the same way. You need to do something like ComplexPattern > to handle this. >Thanks Chris. I will take a closer look at ComplexPattern, I was somehow unaware of it until now. From a brief look it does seem to allow me to do what I need here while being less intrusive. I think my main concerns with it are that using ComplexPattern pervasively in instruction patterns may cause bloat in the pattern matching tables and that it may cause FastISel to bail out more often. Those don't seem like insurmountable problems though, we may just need a specialized variant of it. Thanks, -- -- Peter -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.llvm.org/pipermail/llvm-dev/attachments/20161011/1eae7b8f/attachment-0001.html>