llvm dev - Sep 2016 - https://reviews.llvm.org/D23393

On 9/12/16 11:40 PM, Davide Italiano wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 10:03 PM, Alfred Perlstein via llvm-dev
> <llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org> wrote:
>> Hey folks,
>>
>> I'm new here, wasn't expecting to subscribe but here I am.  The
reason I'm
>> here is that I came across a doc bug, I spent quite a bit of time
learning
>> all the tips and tricks for submitting patches to llvm including using
>> phabricator and finally tweeting at the llvm account to get some
attention.
>>
>> The patch is here:
>> https://reviews.llvm.org/D23393
>>
>> I looked in git and it doesn't look like this was pulled in.  Has
it been
>> accepted?  If no, did I miss some step?
>>
>> http://llvm.org/viewvc/llvm-project?rev=281297&view=rev
>>
Thanks Davide!!

-Alfred

This is exactly why we should switch to github. It is much easier for new
contributors to start with small fixes.

2016-09-12 23:43 GMT-07:00 Alfred Perlstein via llvm-dev <
llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org>:
>
>
> On 9/12/16 11:40 PM, Davide Italiano wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 10:03 PM, Alfred Perlstein via llvm-dev
>> <llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey folks,
>>>
>>> I'm new here, wasn't expecting to subscribe but here I am. 
The reason
>>> I'm
>>> here is that I came across a doc bug, I spent quite a bit of time
>>> learning
>>> all the tips and tricks for submitting patches to llvm including
using
>>> phabricator and finally tweeting at the llvm account to get some
>>> attention.
>>>
>>> The patch is here:
>>> https://reviews.llvm.org/D23393
>>>
>>> I looked in git and it doesn't look like this was pulled in. 
Has it been
>>> accepted?  If no, did I miss some step?
>>>
>>> http://llvm.org/viewvc/llvm-project?rev=281297&view=rev
>>>
>>> Thanks Davide!!
>
>
> -Alfred
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+1, would be nice, that was a LOT of work, of which 80%+ felt 
unnecessary.  I think LLVM is GREAT and really amazing, however quite 
frankly, although I enjoy contributing to open source, this experience 
made me more likely to search out projects which a lower bar to entry 
and I likely will not bother to contribute fixes unless they were 
critical due to this barrier.

-Alfred


On 9/12/16 11:59 PM, Piotr Padlewski wrote:
> This is exactly why we should switch to github. It is much easier for 
> new contributors to start with small fixes.
>
> 2016-09-12 23:43 GMT-07:00 Alfred Perlstein via llvm-dev 
> <llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org <mailto:llvm-dev at
lists.llvm.org>>:
>
>
>
>     On 9/12/16 11:40 PM, Davide Italiano wrote:
>
>         On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 10:03 PM, Alfred Perlstein via llvm-dev
>         <llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org <mailto:llvm-dev at
lists.llvm.org>> wrote:
>
>             Hey folks,
>
>             I'm new here, wasn't expecting to subscribe but here I
>             am.  The reason I'm
>             here is that I came across a doc bug, I spent quite a bit
>             of time learning
>             all the tips and tricks for submitting patches to llvm
>             including using
>             phabricator and finally tweeting at the llvm account to
>             get some attention.
>
>             The patch is here:
>             https://reviews.llvm.org/D23393
>             <https://reviews.llvm.org/D23393>
>
>             I looked in git and it doesn't look like this was pulled
>             in.  Has it been
>             accepted?  If no, did I miss some step?
>
>             http://llvm.org/viewvc/llvm-project?rev=281297&view=rev
>            
<http://llvm.org/viewvc/llvm-project?rev=281297&view=rev>
>
>     Thanks Davide!!
>
>
>     -Alfred
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On 13 September 2016 at 07:59, Piotr Padlewski via llvm-dev
<llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org> wrote:
> This is exactly why we should switch to github. It is much easier for new
> contributors to start with small fixes.
There are two really quite separate issues here:
1) Patches, even trivial ones can sit unreviewed for long periods of
time leading to a negative first time contribution experience.
2) Arguably, Phabricator provides a confusing interface for first-time
or irregular users. There are efforts to improve this
https://secure.phabricator.com/T5000

As for 1), this is something a few of us discussed at the LLVM
Cauldron in Hebden Bridge last week which inspired me to give a
lightning talk. Slides:
<https://speakerdeck.com/asb/can-we-improve-the-experience-of-first-time-llvm-contributors>
Video: <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32fmbEI9WrM> I'm intending to
start an RFC thread when I get a chance. The tl;dr is I propose
stealing Rust's highfive-bot and forming a team of eager volunteers
who want to help improve response times for patches from first-time
contributors.

Best,

Alex