Does anyone know of a reliable site to d/l a tarball of gspca? *NOTHING* I've tried works on those two servers, suggesting to me that there's some weird bug in the driver that's in the kernel. They remain, as I mentioned, about the top 15% ok, and the rest green screen (which I've googled to find other folks, years ago, complaining about), so the only thing left I can think of is to try to build the driver myself. mark