Puppet users - Nov 2011 - Which package repository for puppet installation (rh/centos) ?

Hello,

For some time I have been looking for some solution to manage more
then a few servers. After some time of searching puppet became by
choice :-)
I''d like to deploy it on some testing servers (RH/Centos). Which
repository would you recommend to use as a source of puppet packages ?
I guess that EPEL has newer packages then standard RH/Centos
repositories. But if I use EPEL does it invoke many changes in
standard RH/Centos packages related to packages dependencies ? I am
considering EPEL or yum.puppetlabs.com repositories (what is a
difference between them ?).

Best regards

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Hello,



If you''re not managing your own repositories for your own RPMs then 
second best is the Puppet Labs repo - it will have the latest versions 
with all the latest bug fixes and features. I''m fairly certain you will
need EPEL anyway this for some of the Ruby dependencies (ruby-shadow, 
ruby-augeas, etc).

In answer to your question about dependencies: No. EPEL should not 
replace any packages in base RHEL/CentOS - they are extra software that 
hasn''t made it into the mainline (yet).

For your third question, the difference between EPEL and Puppetlabs 
Repo: EPEL contains a host of extra packages for RHEL/CentOS whereas 
Puppetlabs Repos will only be for Puppet Labs products. The Puppet Labs 
repos are generally very fast (you can get an RPM for the latest release 
in a few days). I''d expect EPEL to be slower, however I know people
have
been trying to push Puppet into EPEL faster and faster so how far behind 
the Puppet releases it is I don''t know.

-Luke

On 29/11/11 11:43, seamie wrote:
> Hello,
>
> For some time I have been looking for some solution to manage more
> then a few servers. After some time of searching puppet became by
> choice :-)
> I''d like to deploy it on some testing servers (RH/Centos). Which
> repository would you recommend to use as a source of puppet packages ?
> I guess that EPEL has newer packages then standard RH/Centos
> repositories. But if I use EPEL does it invoke many changes in
> standard RH/Centos packages related to packages dependencies ? I am
> considering EPEL or yum.puppetlabs.com repositories (what is a
> difference between them ?).
>
> Best regards
>

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On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 6:43 AM, seamie <mail131@gmail.com> wrote:
> But if I use EPEL does it invoke many changes in
> standard RH/Centos packages related to packages dependencies ? I am
> considering EPEL or yum.puppetlabs.com repositories (what is a
> difference between them ?).
>
>
>
Hi,

I''ve adopted the practice of using gem to install puppet and facter on
my
systems. Most of the yum repositories that I was looking at were several
revs behind in what version of puppet they had.

Just my US$0.02 worth...




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On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 8:08 AM, Peter Berghold <salty.cowdawg@gmail.com>
wrote:
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 6:43 AM, seamie <mail131@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> But if I use EPEL does it invoke many changes in
>> standard RH/Centos packages related to packages dependencies ? I am
>> considering EPEL or yum.puppetlabs.com repositories (what is a
>> difference between them ?).
We work very closely with the EPEL maintainers too (actually I am
one); so those packages are normally quite well tested.  They are
however, normally a few version behind the upstream available
versions.

>>
>>
>
> Hi,
>
> I''ve adopted the practice of using gem to install puppet and
facter on my
> systems. Most of the yum repositories that I was looking at were several
> revs behind in what version of puppet they had.
>
> Just my US$0.02 worth...
>
>

That''s no longer the case with apt.puppetlabs.com and
yum.puppetlabs.com (or if it is, my team messed up).


The gem install to me leaves a bad taste in my mouth; you don''t get
init scripts, you have to run some extra commands to setup
/etc/puppet, etc.  It''s certainly workable, but not a favorite for me.



Mike
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----- Original Message -----
| On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 6:43 AM, seamie <mail131@gmail.com> wrote:
| 
| > But if I use EPEL does it invoke many changes in
| > standard RH/Centos packages related to packages dependencies ? I am
| > considering EPEL or yum.puppetlabs.com repositories (what is a
| > difference between them ?).
| >
| >
| >
| Hi,
| 
| I''ve adopted the practice of using gem to install puppet and facter
on
| my
| systems. Most of the yum repositories that I was looking at were
| several
| revs behind in what version of puppet they had.
| 
| Just my US$0.02 worth...

I use EPEL with package protections to ensure that EPEL can''t destroy
the base OS.  Worked fine for me so far.  Currently EPEL has 2.6.12 in it.  Not
*too far* behind. ;)

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On 29. nov. 2011 19:28, Michael Stahnke wrote:
>
> That''s no longer the case with apt.puppetlabs.com and
> yum.puppetlabs.com (or if it is, my team messed up).
We''ve been following your work on this closely and are very happy you 
and Puppetlabs finally pulled this together. A big ''thank
you''! The
current well-working status and process needs to be communicated more 
clearly, though.

For the wishlist, now we''d love if Puppetlabs could provide Mac
packages
the same way, re the other recently active thread. gem install puppet is 
really not what most would prefer. All the pieces and neccessary people 
are right there, pull it together!

Jan Ivar Beddari


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On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 3:29 AM, Jan Ivar Beddari
<jan.ivar.beddari@uib.no> wrote:
> On 29. nov. 2011 19:28, Michael Stahnke wrote:
>>
>>
>> That''s no longer the case with apt.puppetlabs.com and
>> yum.puppetlabs.com (or if it is, my team messed up).
>
>
> We''ve been following your work on this closely and are very happy
you and
> Puppetlabs finally pulled this together. A big ''thank
you''! The current
> well-working status and process needs to be communicated more clearly,
> though.
Funny you should mention that.

downloads.puppetlabs.com/mac has some new content ;)

They are still in a testing phase, and I would love feedback.  I know
there are a couple issues.  We''re also working with macports to
hopefully get puppet udpated/fixed.

Mike

>
> For the wishlist, now we''d love if Puppetlabs could provide Mac
packages the
> same way, re the other recently active thread. gem install puppet is really
> not what most would prefer. All the pieces and neccessary people are right
> there, pull it together!
>
> Jan Ivar Beddari
>
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