Jack Moffitt
2005-May-03 15:58 UTC
[Vorbis] [rms@gnu.org: http://wiki.xiph.org/index.php/PortablePlayers]
I've already responded to Richard. Is there a volunteer who can edit the page to fulfill his request? If so, please edit the page let Richard know that you've completed the task. Thanks, jack. ----- Forwarded message from Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> ----- From: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> To: Jack Moffitt <jack@xiph.org> Subject: http://wiki.xiph.org/index.php/PortablePlayers Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 13:13:40 -0400 I just found out about at that page, and it would be good for the FSF to make a link to a similar page. However, there's a specific problem with this one: it recommends installing different firmware into some of the players. That firmware is non-free software, so we mustn't recommend it. Could you make a similar page that has the same info but without mentioning the devices that need users to install new firmware? That we could and will make a link to. If you can't do this, I will try to find someone else. One other thing. Some of these players are described as "flash-based". Does this have something to do with Macromedia? ----- End forwarded message -----
John Morton
2005-May-03 17:13 UTC
[Vorbis] [rms@gnu.org: http://wiki.xiph.org/index.php/PortablePlayers]
On Wed, 2005-05-04 at 10:58, Jack Moffitt wrote:> I've already responded to Richard. Is there a volunteer who can edit > the page to fulfill his request? If so, please edit the page let > Richard know that you've completed the task.> I just found out about at that page, and it would be good for the FSF > to make a link to a similar page. However, there's a specific problem > with this one: it recommends installing different firmware into some > of the players. That firmware is non-free software, so we mustn't > recommend it. > > Could you make a similar page that has the same info but without mentioning > the devices that need users to install new firmware? That we could > and will make a link to.How is a portable that can play vorbis out of the box more free than a portable that requires a firmware upgrade when neither are using Free firmware in the first place? The only player FSF can recommend is one that has Free firmware, which, at the moment, is the Neuros (maybe) and nothing else. (Ok, maybe an iPod running uClinux as well...) John
Jernej Simoncic
2005-May-04 01:30 UTC
[Vorbis] [rms@gnu.org: http://wiki.xiph.org/index.php/PortablePlayers]
On Wednesday, May 4, 2005, 2:17:28, John Morton wrote:> (Ok, maybe an iPod running uClinux as well...)Archos and in some time maybe iRiver? <http://rockbox.sf.net/> -- < Jernej Simoncic ><><><><>< http://deepthought.ena.si/ > Celibacy is not hereditary. -- First Law of Socio-Genetics