Hi. Joined the list since this seems to be the only point of communication. Just have two comments/questions. 1) I looked all around the developer's site and vorbis.com and don't see any mention of where to send bug reports for 1.0 beta. I'd think it would be a FAQ. 2) My bug for the new beta. (I'm hoping someone of the PTB is reading ... I definitely don't belong on the developers' list.) I tried this with a couple wavs and the Windows oggenc binary from www.vorbis.com. I'm running NT 4 SP6. On both Ogg Vorbis files, playback on WinAmp ends with a loud pop, at all quality settings I checked. When encoded with the old beta binary (ogglame), there is no such pop, so I think it's a new introduction. It doesn't matter which version of the WinAmp plugin I use. (Other than the pop, it's great. Chick Corea sounds crystal at 5 and 6 quality. And now, I go into lurkitude, since I don't think I can offer any more, unless you want one of my songs encoded with the old encoder.) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail – Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ Ogg project homepage: http://www.xiph.org/ogg/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'vorbis-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.
> 2) My bug for the new beta. (I'm hoping someone of > the PTB is reading ... I definitely don't belong on > the developers' list.) I tried this with a couple > wavs and the Windows oggenc binary from > www.vorbis.com. I'm running NT 4 SP6. > > On both Ogg Vorbis files, playback on WinAmp ends with > a loud pop, at all quality settings I checked. When > encoded with the old beta binary (ogglame), there is > no such pop, so I think it's a new introduction. It > doesn't matter which version of the WinAmp plugin I > use.Many rippers/WAV manipulation programs stick a 'junk' chunk at the end of the WAV with a little advertisement for themselves. This is not part of the audio and if another program reading that WAV file doesn't expect the crap at the end, it's processed as audio as a loud pop. Mike, this will be something else you'll need to add to OggEnc's WAV handling... Monty --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ Ogg project homepage: http://www.xiph.org/ogg/
>Many rippers/WAV manipulation programs stick a 'junk' chunk at the end ofthe>WAV with a little advertisement for themselves. This is not part of theaudio>and if another program reading that WAV file doesn't expect the crap at the >end, it's processed as audio as a loud pop. > >Mike, this will be something else you'll need to add to OggEnc's WAV >handling...Ugh. I knew this was possible, but I didn't think any programs were silly enough to actually do it. Oh well. I guess I'll be rewriting bits of the WAV handling again tonight. Michael --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ Ogg project homepage: http://www.xiph.org/ogg/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'vorbis-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.
Michael Smith (msmith@labyrinth.net.au) wrote :> >Many rippers/WAV manipulation programs stick a 'junk' chunk at the end of the > >WAV with a little advertisement for themselves. This is not part of the audio > >and if another program reading that WAV file doesn't expect the crap at the > >end, it's processed as audio as a loud pop. > > > >Mike, this will be something else you'll need to add to OggEnc's WAV > >handling... > > Ugh. I knew this was possible, but I didn't think any programs were silly > enough to actually do it. Oh well. I guess I'll be rewriting bits of the > WAV handling again tonight.What ? You were reading data until EOF instead of end-of-chunk ? "They never learn ..." David Balazic --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ Ogg project homepage: http://www.xiph.org/ogg/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'vorbis-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.
--- Michael Smith <msmith@labyrinth.net.au> wrote:> > >Many rippers/WAV manipulation programs stick a > 'junk' chunk at the end of > the > >WAV with a little advertisement for themselves. > This is not part of the > audio > >and if another program reading that WAV file > doesn't expect the crap at the > >end, it's processed as audio as a loud pop. > > > >Mike, this will be something else you'll need to > add to OggEnc's WAV > >handling... > > Ugh. I knew this was possible, but I didn't think > any programs were silly > enough to actually do it. Oh well. I guess I'll beIs there any way whether this is the actual case? If it's in the WAV (saved with Goldwave) it's not in plain text. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ Ogg project homepage: http://www.xiph.org/ogg/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'vorbis-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.
--- Jeremy Lakatos <spaemtrap@yahoo.com> wrote:> > Is there any way whether this is the actual case? If > it's in the WAV (saved with Goldwave) it's not in > plain text.Scratch that. Found it (used the wrong editor before, the end got truncated). The bastard! LISTB -garbage- INFOSFT5 -garbage- GoldWave (C) Chris S. Craig, http://www.goldwave.com Now I want to check all my wave files from diff editors. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ Ogg project homepage: http://www.xiph.org/ogg/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'vorbis-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.
--- Jose Mejuto <jmejuto@pobox.com> wrote:> At 09:38 23/08/00 -0700, you wrote: > > Well AFAIK "LIST" and "INFO" are valid and > documented WAV chuncks, and the > information located in that chunks are not > "probably" garbage. WAV data isYeah I know. What I actually meant was stuff I couldn't send, since spewing binary data in email is a bad thing. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ Ogg project homepage: http://www.xiph.org/ogg/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'vorbis-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.