theora - Nov 2011 - Newbie Question: Seeking on remote .ogg files (audio)

I have vorbis audio files on a remote server.  I want to be able to listen to
these files on my local machine using something like winamp.  If I point winamp
directly at the file using its url (something like
http://www.example.com/file.ogg), the file plays, but is not seekable. If I do
the same with .mp3 files, seeking works fine.

I thought this might be a winamp issue, but trying to seek on a remote .ogg file
using Firefox?s implementation of html5 audio element also fails; it works fine
locally.

What is going on and how can I fix it?

Thanx very much for any info...
-- Rich
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Rich,

What version of Firefox were you using?  My understanding is that
Firefox can seek just fine in Ogg Vorbis files, even over the network.  
The problem may reside, however, on the server, if it does not support
range-request headers.  Was the MP3 on the same server as the Ogg file
you were testing with?

P.S.  If the file is something you can provide a link to, that would
make it easier for others to help find the source of the problem.

On 11/30/2011 03:05 PM, Rich Caloggero wrote:
> I have vorbis audio files on a remote server.  I want to be able to
> listen to these files on my local machine using something like
> winamp.  If I point winamp directly at the file using its url
> (something like http://www.example.com/file.ogg), the file plays, but
> is not seekable. If I do the same with .mp3 files, seeking works fine.
>  
> I thought this might be a winamp issue, but trying to seek on a remote
> .ogg file using Firefox?s implementation of html5 audio element also
> fails; it works fine locally.
>  
> What is going on and how can I fix it?
>  
> Thanx very much for any info...
> -- Rich
>  
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> theora mailing list
> theora at xiph.org
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(Replying to list in addition to you)

I was able to seek in this file without any problem.  I didn't try the
MP3.  I am using Firefox 5.  Can you verify that you're having the
problem with this same file on this server?

On 11/30/2011 03:37 PM, Rich Caloggero wrote:
> *>The problem may reside, however, on the server, if it does not support
> range-request headers.  Was the MP3 on the same server as the Ogg file
> you were testing with?
>
> Hmm, I'm no apache expert and its been a few years since I set it up,
> but its pretty much running a standard apache2 server. Can you point
> me to some place where I can find out how to tell apache to send the
> headers?
>
> *>P.S.  If the file is something you can provide a link to, that would
> make it easier for others to help find the source of the problem.
>
> Here are links to two files, one .mp3 and one .ogg living on my server
> (not the same file, but should be ok for this purpose):
>
> http://narita.mit.edu/theora/file.ogg
>
> http://narita.mit.edu/theora/file.mp3
>
> Thanx very much for your response.
> -- Rich
>
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Basil Mohamed Gohar
> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 3:12 PM
> To: theora at xiph.org
> Subject: Re: [theora] Newbie Question: Seeking on remote .ogg files
> (audio)
>
> Rich,
>
> What version of Firefox were you using?  My understanding is that
> Firefox can seek just fine in Ogg Vorbis files, even over the network.
> The problem may reside, however, on the server, if it does not support
> range-request headers.  Was the MP3 on the same server as the Ogg file
> you were testing with?
>
> P.S.  If the file is something you can provide a link to, that would
> make it easier for others to help find the source of the problem.
>
> On 11/30/2011 03:05 PM, Rich Caloggero wrote:
>> I have vorbis audio files on a remote server.  I want to be able to
>> listen to these files on my local machine using something like
>> winamp.  If I point winamp directly at the file using its url
>> (something like http://www.example.com/file.ogg), the file plays, but
>> is not seekable. If I do the same with .mp3 files, seeking works fine.
>>
>> I thought this might be a winamp issue, but trying to seek on a remote
>> .ogg file using Firefox?s implementation of html5 audio element also
>> fails; it works fine locally.
>>
>> What is going on and how can I fix it?
>>
>> Thanx very much for any info...
>> -- Rich
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> theora mailing list
>> theora at xiph.org
>> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/theora
>
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Hi Rich,

Take a look at: 
https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Configuring_servers_for_Ogg_media

I suspect your server either is using GZIP compression or doesn't 
correctly support HTTP 1.1 byte range requests.

Regards,
Chris P.


On 1/12/2011 9:05 a.m., Rich Caloggero wrote:
> I have vorbis audio files on a remote server.  I want to be able to 
> listen to these files on my local machine using something like 
> winamp.  If I point winamp directly at the file using its url 
> (something like http://www.example.com/file.ogg), the file plays, but 
> is not seekable. If I do the same with .mp3 files, seeking works fine.
> I thought this might be a winamp issue, but trying to seek on a remote 
> .ogg file using Firefox's implementation of html5 audio element also 
> fails; it works fine locally.
> What is going on and how can I fix it?
> Thanx very much for any info...
> -- Rich
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> theora mailing list
> theora at xiph.org
> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/theora
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