I'm interested in feedback on my latest blog post, "Seamless web video within reach": http://ossguy.com/?p=424 It primarily describes how to get Theora working in Safari and Internet Explorer and how to bring it all together with tools like Mv_Embed. In addition, I'd like to find people that are interested in developing and testing the solutions I outlined (especially Mac and Windows users). I'm hoping that through these efforts, we can make Theora the dominant vehicle for online video sooner rather than later. Denver http://ossguy.com/
On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 6:07 PM, Denver Gingerich<denver at ossguy.com> wrote:> I'm interested in feedback on my latest blog post, "Seamless web video > within reach": > > http://ossguy.com/?p=424 > > It primarily describes how to get Theora working in Safari and > Internet Explorer and how to bring it all together with tools like > Mv_Embed. > > In addition, I'd like to find people that are interested in developing > and testing the solutions I outlined (especially Mac and Windows > users). ?I'm hoping that through these efforts, we can make Theora the > dominant vehicle for online video sooner rather than later."From what I've heard, loading the Cortado applet requires the user to explicit allow the applet to run because it is not signed by a trusted CA. " No, if you use a completely unsigned cortado you get no permission request. However the applet can the only play media from the same FQDN as the applet itself was loaded from. If the applet is signed it can remote load. But this results in a scary warning. Signing by an official CA makes the warning less scary. So you have Local Media+unsigned > CA signed > self-signed Java works pretty widely on IE. Okay, lets say 20% it doesn't work on. As of so far my experience with VLC plugin has been pretty negative. Older versions were a pretty much guaranteed client crash and I'm not sure if its possible to differentiate safe vs unsafe versions easily. There will also never be a user-interaction free way to load the activeX as that would be a malware author's dream come true. Fortunately, as was discovered with Flash, if you nag enough eventually the user will click to install.
I am presently just recommend Firefox over the install process of VLC.. Since if you have to download and go though an install process might as well be firefox (instead of a plugin) But if the solution you describes works pretty well _in a pure in-browser sessions_ then I think it would be worth while integrating into the library. Or maybe give users a choice on mouse over? I also had bad early experiences with VLC. Although it performs better than cortado in IE in terms of start up-time and overall responsiveness of the system. The IE activeX seems to crash slightly less than sun java (at least in my virtual machine instance of windows XP anyway) --michael Denver Gingerich wrote:> I'm interested in feedback on my latest blog post, "Seamless web video > within reach": > > http://ossguy.com/?p=424 > > It primarily describes how to get Theora working in Safari and > Internet Explorer and how to bring it all together with tools like > Mv_Embed. > > In addition, I'd like to find people that are interested in developing > and testing the solutions I outlined (especially Mac and Windows > users). I'm hoping that through these efforts, we can make Theora the > dominant vehicle for online video sooner rather than later. > > Denver > http://ossguy.com/ > _______________________________________________ > theora mailing list > theora at xiph.org > http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/theora >
Reply in-line :- On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 03:37, Denver Gingerich<denver at ossguy.com> wrote:> I'm interested in feedback on my latest blog post, "Seamless web video > within reach": > > http://ossguy.com/?p=424 > > It primarily describes how to get Theora working in Safari and > Internet Explorer and how to bring it all together with tools like > Mv_Embed. > > In addition, I'd like to find people that are interested in developing > and testing the solutions I outlined (especially Mac and Windows > users). ?I'm hoping that through these efforts, we can make Theora the > dominant vehicle for online video sooner rather than later.Hi Denver, The vlc wiki outlines putting the code on a webpage and that webpage downloading the activex control. (developer-oriented solution) What if I want to download and install the .cab file. I downloaded the .cab file but there doesn't seem to be any documentation how to install the same on IE. It might be the same query as Silvia Pfeiffer> Denver > http://ossguy.com/<snipped> -- Regards, Shirish Agarwal My quotes in this email licensed under CC 3.0 http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/3.0/ http://flossexperiences.wordpress.com 065C 6D79 A68C E7EA 52B3 8D70 950D 53FB 729A 8B17
I created a wiki article where we can compile resources to demonstrate that Theora is a viable choice to provide a universal video option in the HTML 5 spec: http://wiki.xiph.org/HTML_5_Video --Brylie
follow up question... is it possible to query the mime types registered in the windows media player plugin via javascript? Cristian Adam wrote:> Michael Dale wrote: >> is it possible to "detect" with javascript if the WMP 11 DirectShow >> oggcodecs are installed (in IE) ? Does it register the mime type? >> >> --michael > > At the moment oggcodecs do not register mime types in IE, only in > Windows Media Player. > > Cheers, > Cristian.