theora - Apr 2009 - Linux Foundation removed all Theora videos from linux.com?

I've heard this second hand and haven't had the time to confirm its
vericity.  Can someone confirm this is the case?

If so, what were these people thinking?  Removing support for the only
video format that is sure to be installed in every Linux box somehow
promoves the OS adoption?  You get a WTF award LF, congrats.

-Ivo

2009/4/14 Ivo Emanuel Gon?alves <justivo at
gmail.com>:
> I've heard this second hand and haven't had the time to confirm its
> vericity. ?Can someone confirm this is the case?
>
> If so, what were these people thinking? ?Removing support for the only
> video format that is sure to be installed in every Linux box somehow
> promoves the OS adoption? ?You get a WTF award LF, congrats.
Well, MTC wrote this:
http://wiki.xiph.org/index.php?title=List_of_Theora_videos&diff=10165&oldid=10163
 but he isn't around on IRC at the moment for me to ask.

Looks like they are reworking the site, but the old site sends you
here http://linuxcom.blip.tv/rss when you click on video.

Blip.tv isn't a great hosting site for unencumbered formats, but at
least if you upload in Ogg/Theora they'll continue to make it
available.

Also relevant:
http://ideaforge.linux.com/story.php?title=convert-linuxfoundation-videos-to-ogg-theora-1

I think its important that we try to maintain a "How can we help?"
outlook even when "Look? you screwed up" appears justified, if nothing
else it spares us egg-face when we're in error as it appears we may be
here.

On 4/14/09, Gregory Maxwell <gmaxwell at gmail.com>
wrote:
> Well, MTC wrote this:
>
http://wiki.xiph.org/index.php?title=List_of_Theora_videos&diff=10165&oldid=10163
>  but he isn't around on IRC at the moment for me to ask.
On 4/14/09, John Abreau <jabr at gapps.blu.org>
wrote:
> When i google for linux.com theora, and click on an article in
> the linux.com domain, I find links to ogg theora streams that
> play correctly in Firefox.  So they haven't removed the videos.
Hm, does that mean we have to cancel the stoning?  But everyone loves
a good stoning!  Aww.

The video part of the site barely loads for me.  The server is being
hammered by something.  I did see however a bunch of comments
regarding Ogg files on the sidebar but can't figure the context with
the site dying on me.

Can't find any information on social sites, but then again when do they
care?

I do know though that the LF just had a huge contest to create an "I
am Linux" video.  Did they forbid a Theora version of the winning
entry, or something like that?

-Ivo

When i google for linux.com theora, and click on an article in
the linux.com domain, I find links to ogg theora streams that
play correctly in Firefox.  So they haven't removed the videos.

Browsing to http://linux.com shows a page announcing that
linuxfoundation.org has taken over the linux.com domain.
Clicking on "Video" on this page, and the video page hasn't
opened yet; it's probably being slashdotted or something.
So I can't verify whether the ogg streams are present. .



2009/4/14 Ivo Emanuel Gon?alves <justivo at
gmail.com>:
> I've heard this second hand and haven't had the time to confirm its
> vericity. ?Can someone confirm this is the case?
>
> If so, what were these people thinking? ?Removing support for the only
> video format that is sure to be installed in every Linux box somehow
> promoves the OS adoption? ?You get a WTF award LF, congrats.
>
> -Ivo
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I reply o the list as we were offlist

Check http://blip.tv/file/345344 for example or other ones from freechelmi
in theora , they are all using cortado.

For me it's a pity they are not using intelligent javascript based tool such
as Itheora in order to use the embedded Ogg player if available



On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 10:06 PM, Gregory Maxwell <gmaxwell at
gmail.com>wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 3:47 PM, michel memeteau
> <michel.memeteau at gmail.com> wrote:
> > You're rude , Blip is the only site when you can Keep your videos
in
> theora
> > and watch them with cortado ! ANd they 've been allowing this at
least
> two
> > years ago !
>
> Well? I certainly didn't intend to be rude. That the original format
> is preserved for download is very good compared to other sites.  If
> only blip took the extra step to transcode to Ogg/Theora and offered
> that as an option (so you could visit the site without flash but with
> Java or Firefox 3.5 beta and get video) it would have my support.
> It's not the only site that allows upload in Ogg/Theora (by far) or
> even the only that preserves it in that format.
>
> You can watch your videos on Blip.tv with cortado? This is news to me.
>  When I visit the site without flash support nothing plays, even files
> originally uploaded in Ogg/Theora. What am I missing?
>


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