Fedora xen - Jan 2009 - New Fedora virtualization list: fedora-virt

As the initiator for this list, I must admit I made a mistake
3 years ago, I should have picked a list name agnostic from the
hypervisor name. With the current state of Xen in Fedora recent
releases it really make sense to try to correct that mistake ...
it''s never too late ! So
  https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-virt
is born, I don''t want to mass-subscribe people, especially as
I think the current list should survive with its Xen centric
focus. You can subscribe directly to the new URL above.
  The topic is everything concerning Fedora and virtualization
including Xen.
  I think the current list would be a good place for people
still using Fedora <= 8 with Xen, but it''s just a suggestion :-)

Daniel

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On 2009-01-09 9:10 AM, Daniel Veillard wrote:
>    I think the current list would be a good place for people
> still using Fedora<= 8 with Xen, but it''s just a suggestion:-)
Or in a couple months the people using Xen again with F10 (probably) right?

If you had decided to change this list''s name I''d have had no 
objections.  I can also subscribe to another list, make a new procmail 
rule, and dump the messages from both lists into the same folder, but it 
seems like a bunch of work replicated among n subscribers.  Unless the 
goal is to keep down the noise from the Xen riff-raff for KVM folks. ;)

Just for perspective, I''m interested in virtualization and Xen
currently
has the features I''m looking for; I''d guess other folks think
similarly,
but that''s an assumption.  For instance, if KVM reached a state where
it
was a superset of Xen and had switch-worthy benefits that''s something 
I''d want to be reading about on this list.

That''s all to say I''d vote not to have balkanized fedora
virtualization
lists; if I need to jump through a few mailman hoops that''s not a big 
deal even if it''s not ideal.

-Bill

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On Fri, Jan 09, 2009 at 12:48:22PM -0500, Bill McGonigle
wrote:
> On 2009-01-09 9:10 AM, Daniel Veillard wrote:
> >   I think the current list would be a good place for people
> >still using Fedora<= 8 with Xen, but it''s just a
suggestion:-)
> 
> Or in a couple months the people using Xen again with F10 (probably) right?
Depends if Dom0 patches are accepted into 2.6.29 kernel or not and then
whether that kernel is stable enough for a F10 update...
> If you had decided to change this list''s name I''d have
had no
> objections.  I can also subscribe to another list, make a new procmail 
> rule, and dump the messages from both lists into the same folder, but it 
> seems like a bunch of work replicated among n subscribers.  Unless the 
> goal is to keep down the noise from the Xen riff-raff for KVM folks. ;)
Sadly changing mailing list names is effectively impossible with 
Mailman :-(

Daniel
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On Fri, 2009-01-09 at 17:52 +0000, Daniel P. Berrange
wrote:
> Sadly changing mailing list names is effectively impossible with 
> Mailman :-(
I''m not sure if it''s a good idea to rename a list with so many
long
referenced archived postings. If anything, perhaps the list should be
deprecated or ignored until the Xen traffic on @fedora-virt becomes
onerous (or not).

Renaming a list is annoying, but mechanically not too hard. Here are my
notes from the last time I successfully did it to a private list. I
swapped in the fedora names for my names. I use postfix.

cd /var/lib/mailman/lists
mv fedora-xen fedora-virt

cd /var/lib/mailman/archives/private
mv fedora-xen fedora-virt
mv fedora-xen.mbox fedora-virt.mbox
mv fedora-virt.mbox/fedora-xen.mbox fedora-virt.mbox/fedora-virt.mbox
/usr/lib/mailman/bin/arch fedora-virt

cd /etc/mailman
perl -pi -e ''s/fedora-xen/fedora-virt/g'' virtual-mailman
postmap virtual-mailman
perl -pi -e ''s/fedora-xen/fedora-virt/g'' aliases
postalias aliases

Login to http://hostname/mailman/admin/fedora-virt and change all
occurrences of fedora-xen to fedora-virt. Changes made under General
Options.
http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/faq.html