Guillaume FORTAINE
2009-Dec-27 16:28 UTC
[Ovirt-devel] oVirtBIOS : (High-Performance) Virtualization Firmware
Dear Dennis,> Why should I care? Don't get me wrong the idea sound interesting but I > don't really see why it is so vitally important to put the HV right > into the BIOS. The problem is that you loose support for a lot of > hardware that cannot be booted with coreboot.Our engineering solution comes from a real world problem : faulty firmware (BIOS or UEFI) implementations prevent efficient I/O Virtualization. To quote David Woodhouse, lead Intel embedded software developer for the Linux Kernel and principal maintainer of the file drivers/pci/intel-iommu.c [0] ( Intel's I/O Virtualization, to provide high performance inside the virtual machines ) [1] : "Well done, Dell and HP -- although I didn't think it was possible, you have _further_ lowered my already-unprintable opinion of closed source BIOSes and BIOS engineers" "We _really_ need open source firmware. Or at _least_ firmware written by competent engineers -- but I think we've all fairly much given up on that happening by now?" Many commits of the file intel-iommu.c are related to BIOS bugs [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7]. And it is evident that Intel will not be able to test each firmware version on each IOMMU capable Hardware. By ensuring a full use of hardware capabilities inside Virtual Machines, through a custom Virtualization Firmware, it lowers the TCO (Total Cost of Ownership), thus requiring less frequent hardware upgrades that can be substantial saves on a large scale volume or a critical requirement for budget aware customers.> Earlier this year we had to come up with a virtualization solution to > host 80 VMs quickly and our first shot was VMWare ESX but that failed > because ESX refused to work with the commodity hardware we were using. > So we went with RHEL Xen instead which works beautifully on pretty > much any system precisely because it isn't so closely wedded to any > particular hardware. > I think using a regular BIOS that boots a minimal Kernel/Initrd from a > flash chip gives you pretty much the same benefits of a tiny footprint > but actually works with pretty much every machine out there.We would greatly appreciate to invite you to a further reading of this Phoronix article entitled : "KVM Virtualization Performance With Linux 2.6.31" [8] : "The disk benchmarks took a large hit when running Ubuntu 9.10 "Karmic Koala" within a virtual machine using KVM, but that is to no surprise considering the setup." "Benchmarking Apache with the Kernel-based Virtual Machine took a huge performance hit," Our engineering target is to achieve 1:1 parity in terms of performance between real-hardware and a virtual machine. Each product has specific needs that is why we are very pleased that you were satisfied by your Virtualization Solution, to quote : "So we went with RHEL Xen instead which works beautifully", however it will not be the case for performance and budget aware customers. Best Regards, Guillaume FORTAINE [0] http://git.infradead.org/iommu-2.6.git/blob/e0fc7e0b4b5e69616f10a894ab9afff3c64be74e:/drivers/pci/intel-iommu.c [1] http://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/42841/ [2] http://git.infradead.org/iommu-2.6.git/commit/e0fc7e0b4b5e69616f10a894ab9afff3c64be74e [3] http://git.infradead.org/iommu-2.6.git/commit/2ff729f5445cc47d1910386c36e53fc6b1c5e47a [4] http://git.infradead.org/iommu-2.6.git/commit/6ecbf01c7ce4c0f4c3bdfa0e64ac6258328fda6c [5] http://git.infradead.org/iommu-2.6.git/commit/5854d9c8d18359b1fc2f23c0ef2d51dd53281bd6 [6] http://git.infradead.org/iommu-2.6.git/commit/86cf898e1d0fca245173980e3897580db38569a8 [7] http://git.infradead.org/iommu-2.6.git/commit/0815565adfe3f4c369110c57d8ffe83caefeed68 [8] http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux_2631_kvm&num=6 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/ovirt-devel/attachments/20091227/3e246b1b/attachment.htm>
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