I have made a regular R install, so that /Library/Frameworks/R.frameworks/Resources/bin/R.bin is now a Carbon APPL, using Rez in the way described before. We now have basically two R's -- one from Terminal.app and one from R.app. The first one works fine, except for the small glitch of not starting the default device properly. The second one does not work properly with Aqua Tcl/Tk, while the first one does. Both work with the quartz device. Also the first R works fine from the Carbon Emacs using ESS (while the standard build cannot use the quartz device from Emacs). This means that people who (a) prefer to run their R from the Terminal or from Emacs, and (b) who prefer Aqua to X11, should use the first R. Since I am one of these people, the next release of R on gifi will have no X11 and no R.app. ==Jan de Leeuw; Professor and Chair, UCLA Department of Statistics; Editor: Journal of Multivariate Analysis, Journal of Statistical Software US mail: 8130 Math Sciences Bldg, Box 951554, Los Angeles, CA 90095-1554 phone (310)-825-9550; fax (310)-206-5658; email: deleeuw@stat.ucla.edu homepage: http://gifi.stat.ucla.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------- No matter where you go, there you are. --- Buckaroo Banzai http://gifi.stat.ucla.edu/sounds/nomatter.au