I have been making some changes to the axis drawing code which will allow users to use par(tck=...) to produce grid lines and tick marks which go into a plot rather than pointing outwards. I don't particularly like the strategy that S uses for determining tick mark size so I have introduces an alternative mechanism as well. There is now a new "par" parameter called "tcl" (appologies to John Ousterhout for this) which lets a user specify the tick length as a fraction of the height of a standard sized line. The default is to use par(tcl=-0.5) which gives the present look. I don't like introducing a new "par" value, but there seems to be no other way to resolve the fixed vs variable-sized tick mark needs. If anyone has a better solution, I'd be happy to consider it. Ross -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.- r-devel mailing list -- Read http://www.ci.tuwien.ac.at/~hornik/R/R-FAQ.html Send "info", "help", or "[un]subscribe" (in the "body", not the subject !) To: r-devel-request@stat.math.ethz.ch _._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._