Dear Readers: I'm using Samba 2.2.8a with ACL-support and noticed the following behaviour. If a MS-word document with owner u1, group g1 and permissions 660 is edited by user u2 wich belongs to group g1, the owner of the file will be changed to u2 and an ACL will be created for u1 This is very annoying since a) we don't need this ACLs (u1, u2, u3 are all members of g1) b) if users are removed from group g1 we don't want them to have write-Access to the files. But thea still have write-access to some files, namely those they have changed ian our case group g1 contains all user that should have write-permission to the file and if one user is removed from group g1 he should no longer have write permissions. But after a user has been removed from group g1 he can still change all files the were changed ba him at least once. Here's an example: -rw-rw---- u1 g1 example.doc Now example.doc is changed by u2: -rw-rwxr--+ u2 g1 example.doc # file: example.doc # owner: u2 # group: g1 user::rw- user:u1:rw- #effective:rw- group::rw- #effective:rw- mask:rwx other:--- Now example.doc is changed by u3: -rw-rwxr--+ u3 g1 example.doc # file: example.doc # owner: u3 # group: g1 user::rw- user:u1:rw- #effective:rw- user:u2:rw- #effective:rw- group::rw- #effective:rw- mask:rwx other:--- Any ideas how to prevent this !! Thanks Peter -- Peter Koch <samba-list@naev.de>