Hi, I'm hoping that someone here may be able to help me ;). I have a filesystem that gets checked everytime my machine boots, (as this is a desktop system this is quite often, and unfortunately takes a while). I decided to attempt to fix it, and booted both a knoppix (3.1) CD and a Gentoo 1.4 CD to attempt to run fsck on the partition when I noticed that running fsck returns the following # fsck.ext3 /dev/hdb3 e2fsck 1.30-WIP (30-Sep-2002) Group descriptors look bad... trying backup blocks... fsck.ext3: Invalid argument while checking ext3 journal for /dev/hdb3 google seems to think that the closest matching problem to what I am having is the link below (thus my reason for being here): https://listman.redhat.com:443/archives/ext3-users/2002-December/ msg00050.html I have attempted the debugfs solution as presented here, but when I try to open the partition in anything other than catastrophic mode (thus the inability to write and attempt setting the journal to 0) cannot be tried, the error is as follows: root@0[root]# debugfs -w /dev/hdb3 debugfs 1.30-WIP (30-Sep-2002) /dev/hdb3: Can't read an inode bitmap while reading inode bitmap debugfs: I have also attached the output of tune2fs: root@0[root]# tune2fs -l /dev/hdb3 tune2fs 1.30-WIP (30-Sep-2002) Filesystem volume name: <none> Last mounted on: <not available> Filesystem UUID: e465598d-e803-451c-866c-6dddca668594 Filesystem magic number: 0xEF53 Filesystem revision #: 1 (dynamic) Filesystem features: has_journal filetype sparse_super large_file Filesystem state: not clean with errors Errors behavior: Continue Filesystem OS type: Linux Inode count: 1733312 Block count: 3466023 Reserved block count: 173301 Free blocks: 2140306 Free inodes: 1499594 First block: 0 Block size: 4096 Fragment size: 4096 Blocks per group: 32768 Fragments per group: 32768 Inodes per group: 16352 Inode blocks per group: 511 Last mount time: Tue May 27 22:12:20 2003 Last write time: Wed May 28 00:19:25 2003 Mount count: 14 Maximum mount count: 28 Last checked: Sat Feb 22 23:58:46 2003 Check interval: 15552000 (6 months) Next check after: Fri Aug 22 00:58:46 2003 Reserved blocks uid: 0 (user root) Reserved blocks gid: 0 (group root) First inode: 11 Inode size: 128 Journal UUID: <none> Journal inode: 8 Journal device: 0x0000 First orphan inode: 132589 root@0[root]# Any ideas/help would be gratefully appreciated :) Malcolm