wine users - Jul 2009 - recently moved to 1.1.25, no wine-pthread command

I have done some reading and gather than wine-pthread was dropped somewhere
around 1.1.19.

Problem I have is that I have an application (newsleecher) which effectively
never starts up (gave it 10 minutes at one point, used 100% cpu the whole time)
with strait wine command on the older wine version, I think 1.0.something, came
with ubuntu 8.04 in one of the unsupported repositories.  It starts up in a
reasonable time frame (up to 30 seconds) with wine-pthread but that command
isn't available in 1.1.25.

Is there a way to force pthread in wine 1.1.25?  I hunted the man pages and
google to no avail.  Some sites implied that since 1.1.19 or so it's been
automatic but 1.1.25 it doesn't seem to be the case considering the
program's behavior as of now.

I moved to this version as apparently the version I had contained a bug with
ssl.

I didn't see an option to edit my post so I am posting a new one with an
update.

I started the program, did other things for about 5 minutes, checked and it
hadn't loaded, walked away from the system for 30 or so minutes, came back
and newsleecher had finished loading (this is what wine-pthread fixed).  A
subsequent test (uninstall/reinstall, one person claimed it helped for this
program under wine) and the app is taking between 15 and 30 minutes (closer to
15 but more than) to startup, compared with 30 seconds w/pthread.

Additionally I still can't make secure connection from the program.  I
don't know of any other windows apps I could try to test wine for ssl
(thereby eliminating wine).  If someone knows of another application I could put
my hands on (ie open source) that does ssl encryption I can try it under wine to
determine if the problem is wine or the program.  My bet is the program but I
would like to be sure.  I tried openssl under regular linux and ssl seems to be
working.

OK, so I found openssl binaries for windows, installed them (and the VC++ 2008
redistributables) and tested ssl with openssl.  I know I was using the windows
version as the windows and linux version I have are different.

Test worked.

So I tried uninstalling and reinstalling newsleecher again, now it works EXCEPT
it still starts SLOWLY.

So, original problem remains with no solution: wine-pthread needed (well, some
way to force pthread in wine).  I did find one entry where someone made a backup
copy of wine-pthread from an older wine install and that works for them but I am
not that good with linux yet.  I suppose I could uninstall wine, disable wine
repositories for latest version, and lock myself in on whatever version comes
with 8.04 from official repositories.

Pro_D wrote:
> OK, so I found openssl binaries for windows, installed them (and the VC++
2008 redistributables) and tested ssl with openssl.  I know I was using the
windows version as the windows and linux version I have are different.
>
> Test worked.
>
> So I tried uninstalling and reinstalling newsleecher again, now it works
EXCEPT it still starts SLOWLY.
>
> So, original problem remains with no solution: wine-pthread needed (well,
some way to force pthread in wine).  I did find one entry where someone made a
backup copy of wine-pthread from an older wine install and that works for them
but I am not that good with linux yet.  I suppose I could uninstall wine,
disable wine repositories for latest version, and lock myself in on whatever
version comes with 8.04 from official repositories.
>   
Wine pthread is dead, gone and not going to return because Linux and
UNIX both do not support it anymore.  If you really, really, really need
it, get Wine 1.0.1 for now.

James McKenzie

James McKenzie wrote:
> Pro_D wrote:
> 
> > OK, so I found openssl binaries for windows, installed them (and the
VC++ 2008 redistributables) and tested ssl with openssl.  I know I was using the
windows version as the windows and linux version I have are different.
> > 
> > Test worked.
> > 
> > So I tried uninstalling and reinstalling newsleecher again, now it
works EXCEPT it still starts SLOWLY.
> > 
> > So, original problem remains with no solution: wine-pthread needed
(well, some way to force pthread in wine).  I did find one entry where someone
made a backup copy of wine-pthread from an older wine install and that works for
them but I am not that good with linux yet.  I suppose I could uninstall wine,
disable wine repositories for latest version, and lock myself in on whatever
version comes with 8.04 from official repositories.
> > 
> > 
> Wine pthread is dead, gone and not going to return because Linux and
> UNIX both do not support it anymore.  If you really, really, really need
> it, get Wine 1.0.1 for now.
> 
> James McKenzie

mkay, back I go!

btw: If pthreads is dead in linux, how come it still works?  Also it wasn't
long ago that I did development for parallel applications and we used the
pthread library (linux machines).  What method of threading is replacing
pthreads in linux?

Thanks much!


austin987 wrote:
> 
> ...
> Please file a bug.
> 
> -- 
> -Austin

Can do but I won't be able to use the same machine/os since this is a server
system.  I will try putting the latest wine on my dev machine and see if the
long startup persists before submitting the bug.

PThreads dead? Wtf? I think the PThread binary is now integrated into normal
Wine binary.

>
>James McKenzie wrote:
>> Pro_D wrote:
>> 
>> > OK, so I found openssl binaries for windows, installed them (and
the VC++ 2008 redistributables) and tested ssl with openssl.  I know I was using
the windows version as the windows and linux version I have are different.
>> > 
>> > Test worked.
>> > 
>> > So I tried uninstalling and reinstalling newsleecher again, now it
works EXCEPT it still starts SLOWLY.
>> > 
>> > So, original problem remains with no solution: wine-pthread needed
(well, some way to force pthread in wine).  I did find one entry where someone
made a backup copy of wine-pthread from an older wine install and that works for
them but I am not that good with linux yet.  I suppose I could uninstall wine,
disable wine repositories for latest version, and lock myself in on whatever
version comes with 8.04 from official repositories.
>> > 
>> > 
>> Wine pthread is dead, gone and not going to return because Linux and
>> UNIX both do not support it anymore.  If you really, really, really
need
>> it, get Wine 1.0.1 for now.
>> 
>> James McKenzie
>
>
>mkay, back I go!
>
>btw: If pthreads is dead in linux, how come it still works?  Also it
wasn't long ago that I did development for
>parallel applications and we used the pthread library (linux machines). 
What method of threading is
>replacing pthreads in linux?
My mistake.  With the most recent Linux kernels, pthreads is the ONLY thread
method supported.  Thus, there is no need for wine-pthreads anymore.  I
don't know how to access the current Wine threading methods, but they are
all pthread based.

James McKenzie