Hello all, I'm looking to setup a new CentOS box for a buddy of mine who wants to do hosting on a server via CoLo, Years ago I whipped up a CP of my own on a Debian box he colo'd running a basterdized qmail/tinydns and custom built httpd/mysql/etc (I was young). It worked ok but time to move on and I don't have time to maintain all those packages. I also don't have time to write another CP or port my PoS to it. I'm also just going to use the default packages (bind, postfix, etc) instead of the DJB stuff. Main requirements are fairly straightforward: 1. able to add/manage domains, ssl cert management, manage DNS records 2. able to manage email accounts and anti-spam settings 3. able to add/manage mysql and pgsql (nice to have) 4. user management - ftp/ssh accounts, password change, etc. 5. nice to have: add a wordpress blog / xcart store to a site 6. nice to have: users have own login to do some of the above for their domain only 7. nice to have: integrated website stats (awstats or equiv) 8. not optional - should have a focus on security Stuff like viewing logs, automated billing, hosting plans, managing backups, bandwidth monitoring, uploading web pages, managing server patches, adding new software, etc. I don't mind leaving off or doing myself. Willing to pay a license, but not a huge budget. I was leaning towards webmin/virtualmin but thought I'd check with this list for any suggestions. Had bad experiences with Plesk from a while ago so leaving that off the table. We have experience with cPanel through another fail host, it's ok but too much stuff and too expensive. Josh -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/attachments/20110223/435191da/attachment.html>
On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 2:49 PM, Trutwin, Joshua <JTRUTWIN at csbsju.edu> wrote:> > I was leaning towards webmin/virtualmin but thought I'd check with this list > for any suggestions.? Had bad experiences with Plesk from a while > ago so leaving that off the table.? We have experience with cPanel > through another fail host, it's ok but too much stuff and too > expensive.+1 for Virtualmin. People will brag that it's insecure etc, but it has always done the job for me and I have more than 100 installations of it. I never had security problems because of it.
On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 4:49 PM, Trutwin, Joshua <JTRUTWIN at csbsju.edu> wrote:> Hello all, > > > > I'm looking to setup a new CentOS box for a buddy of mine who > wants to do hosting on a server via CoLo, Years ago I whipped up a CP of my > own on a Debian box he colo?d running a basterdized qmail/tinydns and custom > built httpd/mysql/etc (I was young).? It worked ok but time to move on and I > don't have time to maintain all those packages.? I also don't have > time to write another CP or port my PoS to it.? I?m also just going to use > the > > default ?packages (bind, postfix, etc) instead of the DJB stuff. > > Main requirements are fairly straightforward: > > 1. able to add/manage domains, ssl cert management, manage DNS records > 2. able to manage email accounts and anti-spam settings > 3. able to add/manage mysql and pgsql (nice to have) > 4. user management - ftp/ssh accounts, password change, etc. > 5. nice to have: add a wordpress blog / xcart store to a site > 6. nice to have: users have own login to do some of the above for their > domain only > 7. nice to have: integrated website stats (awstats or equiv) > 8. not optional - should have a focus on security > > Stuff like viewing logs, automated billing, hosting plans, managing backups, > bandwidth monitoring, uploading web pages, managing server patches, > adding new software, etc. I don't mind leaving off or doing myself.? Willing > to > > pay a license, but not a huge budget. > > I was leaning towards webmin/virtualmin but thought I'd check with this list > for any suggestions.? Had bad experiences with Plesk from a while > ago so leaving that off the table.? We have experience with cPanel > through another fail host, it's ok but too much stuff and too > expensive. > > Josh > > _______________________________________________How many domains do you need to manage that cPanel is too expensive? Have you looked at the free alternatives, like: ehcp Webmin + Virtualmin vhcs ISPConfig etc? -- Kind Regards Rudi Ahlers SoftDux Website: http://www.SoftDux.com Technical Blog: http://Blog.SoftDux.com Office: 087 805 9573 Cell: 082 554 7532
On 11-02-23 09:49 AM, Trutwin, Joshua wrote:> > Hello all, > > I'm looking to setup a new CentOS box for a buddy of mine who > wants to do hosting on a server via CoLo, Years ago I whipped up a CP > of my > own on a Debian box he colo'd running a basterdized qmail/tinydns and > custom > built httpd/mysql/etc (I was young). It worked ok but time to move on > and I > don't have time to maintain all those packages. I also don't have > time to write another CP or port my PoS to it. I'm also just going to > use the > > default packages (bind, postfix, etc) instead of the DJB stuff. >I recently ran across DTC (gplhost.com). It seems to have all the major bells and whistles, but I have not made it far enough down the "Back Burner Todo List" to actually check it out myself yet. Originally, I heard about it on FLOSS Weekly on the Twit Network: http://twit.tv/floss144 Andy -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/attachments/20110223/959e10d7/attachment.html>
On 2/23/2011 9:49 AM, Trutwin, Joshua wrote:> > I was leaning towards webmin/virtualmin but thought I'd check with > this list > for any suggestions. Had bad experiences with Plesk from a while > ago so leaving that off the table. We have experience with cPanel > through another fail host, it's ok but too much stuff and too > expensive. > > Josh > >Josh, I have been running webmin/virtualmin/usermin for a number of years. A few things factored into my decision. The main one was I didn't want to be stuck inside of a 'box'. So far, 'almost anything' you want to do via command line has no interference with what is done via the interface. Also, within most of the modules, is the ability to simply open the config files for the service and do direct edits. The Webmin project is very active. If you have a problem or perceived bug, and no one else gets around to answering, you will normally hear back from Jamie Cameron the man behind it all, within hours of making a post. That is very rare these days. Basically, I find the system very flexible and highly configurable. In fact, there are several of my ideas for the system that have been put into place. In fact one, years ago, was to get the CentOS OS recognized within the system and it was done and of course still does. The downside is that the interfaces are a bit geeky. One thing I would like to see is a total rewrite of all the module interfaces in Usermin in an attempt to better define things for the layman. Yes, the end user can do things that you allow. No, most end users won't really understand what they're trying to do. I think those 'boxes' in Plesk and cPanel better address those items due to the nature of 'boxes'. When I say 'boxes', I'm referring to the Windows world config boxes that pop up forcing you down a particular road with no method for customizations. John Hinton -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/attachments/20110223/2b70d920/attachment.html>
On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 6:47 PM, John Hinton <webmaster at ew3d.com> wrote:>The Webmin project is very active. If you have > a problem or perceived bug, and no one else gets around to answering, you > will normally hear back from Jamie Cameron the man behind it all, within > hours of making a post. That is very rare these days.Yup, their support is awesome, at least this was my experience.
On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 4:49 PM, Trutwin, Joshua <JTRUTWIN at csbsju.edu> wrote:> Hello all, > > > > I'm looking to setup a new CentOS box for a buddy of mine who > wants to do hosting on a server via CoLo, Years ago I whipped up a CP of my > own on a Debian box he colo?d running a basterdized qmail/tinydns and custom > built httpd/mysql/etc (I was young).? It worked ok but time to move on and I > don't have time to maintain all those packages.? I also don't have > time to write another CP or port my PoS to it.? I?m also just going to use > the > > default ?packages (bind, postfix, etc) instead of the DJB stuff. > > Main requirements are fairly straightforward: > > 1. able to add/manage domains, ssl cert management, manage DNS records > 2. able to manage email accounts and anti-spam settings > 3. able to add/manage mysql and pgsql (nice to have) > 4. user management - ftp/ssh accounts, password change, etc. > 5. nice to have: add a wordpress blog / xcart store to a site > 6. nice to have: users have own login to do some of the above for their > domain only > 7. nice to have: integrated website stats (awstats or equiv) > 8. not optional - should have a focus on security > > Stuff like viewing logs, automated billing, hosting plans, managing backups, > bandwidth monitoring, uploading web pages, managing server patches, > adding new software, etc. I don't mind leaving off or doing myself.? Willing > to > > pay a license, but not a huge budget. > > I was leaning towards webmin/virtualmin but thought I'd check with this list > for any suggestions.? Had bad experiences with Plesk from a while > ago so leaving that off the table.? We have experience with cPanel > through another fail host, it's ok but too much stuff and too > expensive. > > Josh > > _______________________________________________ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS at centos.org > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos > >Hey there, some are run with ispconfig some with cPanel , some use DirectAdmin control panel , DirectAdmin which proven itself to be a reliable hosting panel "layman friendly" , would be my suggestion. if you are talking about hosting your own stuff, it won't be needed ,but when it comes to providing third party access to the account, cPanel or DirectAdmin are the best choice. -- Best Regards, Yonatan Pingle RHCT | RHCSA | CCNA1
Trutwin, Joshua wrote:> Hello all,Hi, Josh. The CentOS lists are really not the appropriate place for this thread. No doubt there are many members of the CentOS community who can and will help. However, I'm quite certain that CentOS is wholly separate from the other, so threads on the CentOS lists should only pertain to CentOS. Perhaps those willing to assist you might contact you personally. Just a friendly suggestion from a user. Regards.
On 2/23/2011 9:49 AM, Trutwin, Joshua wrote:> > Hello all, > > I'm looking to setup a new CentOS box for a buddy of mine who > wants to do hosting on a server via CoLo, Years ago I whipped up a CP > of my > own on a Debian box he colo'd running a basterdized qmail/tinydns and > custom > built httpd/mysql/etc (I was young). It worked ok but time to move on > and I > don't have time to maintain all those packages. I also don't have > time to write another CP or port my PoS to it. I'm also just going to > use the > > default packages (bind, postfix, etc) instead of the DJB stuff. > > Main requirements are fairly straightforward: > > 1. able to add/manage domains, ssl cert management, manage DNS records > 2. able to manage email accounts and anti-spam settings > 3. able to add/manage mysql and pgsql (nice to have) > 4. user management - ftp/ssh accounts, password change, etc. > 5. nice to have: add a wordpress blog / xcart store to a site > 6. nice to have: users have own login to do some of the above for > their domain only > 7. nice to have: integrated website stats (awstats or equiv) > 8. not optional - should have a focus on security > > Stuff like viewing logs, automated billing, hosting plans, managing > backups, > bandwidth monitoring, uploading web pages, managing server patches, > adding new software, etc. I don't mind leaving off or doing myself. > Willing to > > pay a license, but not a huge budget. > > I was leaning towards webmin/virtualmin but thought I'd check with > this list > for any suggestions. Had bad experiences with Plesk from a while > ago so leaving that off the table. We have experience with cPanel > through another fail host, it's ok but too much stuff and too > expensive. > > Josh > > > _______________________________________________ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS at centos.org > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centosI currently use virtualmin GPL. There are a few features that are kept in virtualmin pro...i have one server that runs pro..i have another that runs virtualmin gpl. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/attachments/20110224/8f0c2854/attachment.html>
Am 24.02.11 14:17, schrieb William Warren:> On 2/23/2011 9:49 AM, Trutwin, Joshua wrote: >> >> Hello all, >> >> I'm looking to setup a new CentOS box for a buddy of mine who >> wants to do hosting on a server via CoLo, Years ago I whipped up a CP >> of my >> own on a Debian box he colo'd running a basterdized qmail/tinydns and >> custom >> built httpd/mysql/etc (I was young). It worked ok but time to move on >> and I >> don't have time to maintain all those packages. I also don't have >> time to write another CP or port my PoS to it. I'm also just going to >> use the >> >> default packages (bind, postfix, etc) instead of the DJB stuff. >> >> Main requirements are fairly straightforward: >> >> 1. able to add/manage domains, ssl cert management, manage DNS records >> 2. able to manage email accounts and anti-spam settings >> 3. able to add/manage mysql and pgsql (nice to have) >> 4. user management - ftp/ssh accounts, password change, etc. >> 5. nice to have: add a wordpress blog / xcart store to a site >> 6. nice to have: users have own login to do some of the above for >> their domain only >> 7. nice to have: integrated website stats (awstats or equiv) >> 8. not optional - should have a focus on security >> >> Stuff like viewing logs, automated billing, hosting plans, managing >> backups, >> bandwidth monitoring, uploading web pages, managing server patches, >> adding new software, etc. I don't mind leaving off or doing myself. >> Willing to >> >> pay a license, but not a huge budget. >> >> I was leaning towards webmin/virtualmin but thought I'd check with >> this list >> for any suggestions. Had bad experiences with Plesk from a while >> ago so leaving that off the table. We have experience with cPanel >> through another fail host, it's ok but too much stuff and too >> expensive. >> >> Josh >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> CentOS mailing list >> CentOS at centos.org >> http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos > I currently use virtualmin GPL. There are a few features that are kept > in virtualmin pro...i have one server that runs pro..i have another that > runs virtualmin gpl. > > > > _______________________________________________ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS at centos.org > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centosplesk *eg* scnr :)
On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 9:49 AM, Trutwin, Joshua <JTRUTWIN at csbsju.edu> wrote:> I'm looking to setup a new CentOS box for a buddy of mine who > wants to do hosting on a server via CoLo, Years ago I whipped up a CP of my > own on a Debian box he colo?d running a basterdized qmail/tinydns and custom > built httpd/mysql/etc (I was young).? It worked ok but time to move on and I > don't have time to maintain all those packages.? I also don't have > time to write another CP or port my PoS to it.? I?m also just going to use > the<snip> Josh: I would suggest you create a thread like this, in one of the sub forums, on WebHostingTalk.com I realize that your friend does not want to spend the $ for cPanel, which, BTW, has an excellent reputation for their Support. As an end user of Shared Hosting, now using cPanel, after 10+ years on Ensim Shared Servers, IMHO, cPanel is what your friend needs, to get more customers. If your friend is going to provide free web hosting, that's one thing, but if he is looking for clients who pay him, cPanel is the most popular CP out there. My interest is in the content of my web sites, and cPanel has things in it that I truly appreciate. GL Lanny.
On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 8:19 PM, Trutwin, Joshua <JTRUTWIN at csbsju.edu> wrote:> I'm looking to setup a new CentOS box for a buddy of mine who > wants to do hosting on a server via CoLo, Years ago I whipped up a CP of my > own on a Debian box he colo?d running a basterdized qmail/tinydns and custom > built httpd/mysql/etc (I was young).? It worked ok but time to move on and I > don't have time to maintain all those packages.? I also don't have > time to write another CP or port my PoS to it.? I?m also just going to use > theJoining the discussion somewhat late. I have not seen OPENLSM mentioned in any of the responses. <http://openlsm.sourceforge.net/features.php> It is on my "back burner 2 do list" so I have not had a chance to use it and comment on it. Take it for a spin and see if it meets your requirements. -- Arun Khan
The bluequartz/blueonyx projects currently target CentOS as its platform. It is the based off the code used for the old Sun Cobalt appliances. On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 9:49 AM, Trutwin, Joshua <JTRUTWIN at csbsju.edu> wrote:> Hello all, > > > > I'm looking to setup a new CentOS box for a buddy of mine who > wants to do hosting on a server via CoLo, Years ago I whipped up a CP of my > own on a Debian box he colo?d running a basterdized qmail/tinydns and custom > built httpd/mysql/etc (I was young).? It worked ok but time to move on and I > don't have time to maintain all those packages.? I also don't have > time to write another CP or port my PoS to it.? I?m also just going to use > the > > default ?packages (bind, postfix, etc) instead of the DJB stuff. > > Main requirements are fairly straightforward: > > 1. able to add/manage domains, ssl cert management, manage DNS records > 2. able to manage email accounts and anti-spam settings > 3. able to add/manage mysql and pgsql (nice to have) > 4. user management - ftp/ssh accounts, password change, etc. > 5. nice to have: add a wordpress blog / xcart store to a site > 6. nice to have: users have own login to do some of the above for their > domain only > 7. nice to have: integrated website stats (awstats or equiv) > 8. not optional - should have a focus on security > > Stuff like viewing logs, automated billing, hosting plans, managing backups, > bandwidth monitoring, uploading web pages, managing server patches, > adding new software, etc. I don't mind leaving off or doing myself.? Willing > to > > pay a license, but not a huge budget. > > I was leaning towards webmin/virtualmin but thought I'd check with this list > for any suggestions.? Had bad experiences with Plesk from a while > ago so leaving that off the table.? We have experience with cPanel > through another fail host, it's ok but too much stuff and too > expensive. > > Josh > > _______________________________________________ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS at centos.org > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos > >