asterisk users - Jul 2010 - False answer() being sent by cellphone providers

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From:	asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com on behalf of Steve Edwards
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Subject:	Re: [asterisk-users] False answer() being sent by cellphone providers

On Fri, 9 Jul 2010, Mike Ely wrote:
> (off list)
Continuing to veer off-topic...
> Yes indeed we do.  The telcos here are absolutely abhorrent, to the 
> point that much could be written about how horrible they are but nobody 
> would want to read such depressing material.  And consumer protections? 
> Hah!  The devotees of Ayn Rand have written most consumer law here. 
> Don't get me started.
Maybe you should re-read Atlas Shrugged.

Your laws may have been written by the people Ayn Rand wrote about: "the 
government increasingly asserts control over all industry, while society's 
most productive citizens, led by the mysterious John Galt, progressively 
disappear,*" not devotees of Ayn Rand and her philosophy.

*) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlas_Shrugged

Well, so much for my "off list" attempt.  Perhaps I should learn how
to use email before I take on anything so complex as a PBX.

At any rate, Steve, you have it completely backwards: in the US and many other
countries, it is industry asserting control over government, not the other way
around.  Walk down K Street in Washington, D.C. and you'll see my point.

And no thanks: I've already read that execrable book, and found it to be
nothing more than overwrought claptrap written to give people with a huge
inferiority complex (witness all the carping on about "mediocrity")
some smug self-justification when they abandon all ethics in favor of their
reptile-brain, base instincts.  Disgusting.

Cheers!
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> From: asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com on behalf of Steve Edwards
> 
> Continuing to veer off-topic...
> 
> Maybe you should re-read Atlas Shrugged.
On Fri, 9 Jul 2010, Mike Ely wrote:
> And no thanks: I've already read that execrable book, and found it to
be
> nothing more than overwrought claptrap written to give people with a 
> huge inferiority complex (witness all the carping on about
"mediocrity")
> some smug self-justification when they abandon all ethics in favor of 
> their reptile-brain, base instincts. Disgusting.
Ouch. I think one of my favorite ox has been gored.

Maybe we both got what we wanted from the book.

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Thanks in advance,
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