asterisk users - Mar 2007 - While the VoIP-Info.org site is down...

Is it wise to use an outage to promote your business, not on the user's
list and not multiple times?  Put it in your signature or something ;-)

Thanks,
Steve Totaro
http://www.asteriskhelpdesk.com
KB3OPB
 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-
> bounces@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Shane Breen
> Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 5:34 PM
> To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
> Subject: [asterisk-users] While the VoIP-Info.org site is down...
> 
> Feel free to use:  http://www.thetelecomdirectory.com/forum
> 
> If you register your company here as well:
> http://www.thetelecomdirectory.com You will be able to upload white
> papers,
> list your company in our directory, release press releases all for
FREE.
> 
> Here is where you do all of the above:
> http://www.thetelecomdirectory.com/signup/signup.asp
> 
> If you want to see how The Telecom Directory ranks visit:
> http://www.alexa.com/search?q=thetelecomdirectory.com
> 
> Hopefully VoIP-Info will come back up but in the meantime use the site
to
> its full potential. IT IS FREE.....
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Matt Riddell (NZ)" <matt.riddell@sineapps.com>
> To: "Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion"
> <asterisk-users@lists.digium.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 4:22 PM
> Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] RE: what happened to asterisk wiki???
> 
> 
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> > JR Richardson wrote:
> >> A friend of mine was on the site yesterday, late morning, when he
> >> refreshed his screen, a banner came across the web page "VOIP
SUCKS"
> >> and then the site was no longer available.  I'm pretty sure
the
site
> >> was compromised by some hacker trying to prove a point or make a
> >> statement.  Not to throw stink on anyone or group, but maybe it
was
> >> someone from a competing open source VoIP project or one of the
Big
> >> Iron VoIP System Manufacturers.  Probably just some cracker with
too
> >> much time on their hands.  I feel like someone shot my dog, please
get
> >> the site back up as soon as possible.
> >
> > There was a post about a security vulnerability in wiki on bugtraq a
> > couple of days ago, but it looked more like someone had figured out
how
> > to edit pages (pointless considering a wiki is open anyway).
> >
> > - --
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Matt Riddell
> > Director
> > _______________________________________________
> >
> > http://www.sineapps.com/news.php (Daily Asterisk News - html)
> > http://wap.sineapps.com (Daily Asterisk News for your cellphone)
> > http://feeds.feedburner.com/AsteriskNews (Daily Asterisk News - rss)
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Sorry about that. I figured since it is a FREE site it was no biggie.

Thanks,

Shane Breen *The Telecom Directory * Office: 404-797-6633
info@thetelecomdirectory.com * www.TheTelecomDirectory.com

The Telecom Directory is the only complete A to Z interactive website for 
all telecommunication related information, services, solutions and products.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve Totaro" <stotaro@asteriskhelpdesk.com>
To: "Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion" 
<asterisk-users@lists.digium.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 5:57 PM
Subject: RE: [asterisk-users] While the VoIP-Info.org site is down...


Is it wise to use an outage to promote your business, not on the user's
list and not multiple times?  Put it in your signature or something ;-)

Thanks,
Steve Totaro
http://www.asteriskhelpdesk.com
KB3OPB

> -----Original Message-----
> From: asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-
> bounces@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Shane Breen
> Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 5:34 PM
> To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
> Subject: [asterisk-users] While the VoIP-Info.org site is down...
>
> Feel free to use:  http://www.thetelecomdirectory.com/forum
>
> If you register your company here as well:
> http://www.thetelecomdirectory.com You will be able to upload white
> papers,
> list your company in our directory, release press releases all for
FREE.
>
> Here is where you do all of the above:
> http://www.thetelecomdirectory.com/signup/signup.asp
>
> If you want to see how The Telecom Directory ranks visit:
> http://www.alexa.com/search?q=thetelecomdirectory.com
>
> Hopefully VoIP-Info will come back up but in the meantime use the site
to
> its full potential. IT IS FREE.....
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Matt Riddell (NZ)" <matt.riddell@sineapps.com>
> To: "Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion"
> <asterisk-users@lists.digium.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 4:22 PM
> Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] RE: what happened to asterisk wiki???
>
>
> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> > Hash: SHA1
> >
> > JR Richardson wrote:
> >> A friend of mine was on the site yesterday, late morning, when he
> >> refreshed his screen, a banner came across the web page "VOIP
SUCKS"
> >> and then the site was no longer available.  I'm pretty sure
the
site
> >> was compromised by some hacker trying to prove a point or make a
> >> statement.  Not to throw stink on anyone or group, but maybe it
was
> >> someone from a competing open source VoIP project or one of the
Big
> >> Iron VoIP System Manufacturers.  Probably just some cracker with
too
> >> much time on their hands.  I feel like someone shot my dog, please
get
> >> the site back up as soon as possible.
> >
> > There was a post about a security vulnerability in wiki on bugtraq a
> > couple of days ago, but it looked more like someone had figured out
how
> > to edit pages (pointless considering a wiki is open anyway).
> >
> > - --
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Matt Riddell
> > Director
> > _______________________________________________
> >
> > http://www.sineapps.com/news.php (Daily Asterisk News - html)
> > http://wap.sineapps.com (Daily Asterisk News for your cellphone)
> > http://feeds.feedburner.com/AsteriskNews (Daily Asterisk News - rss)
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Shane Breen wrote:
> Sorry about that. I figured since it is a FREE site it was no biggie.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Shane Breen
Well, Shane, nothing is ever really FREE, and when someone offers
something FREE, there is almost always a catch, and on the Internet that
catch tends to come in the form of SPAM.

Spam that looks not unlike your e-mails to the list.

What we want is for the wiki to be back up because it contains useful
information. We can get advertising anywhere.

-Stephen-

> -----Original Message-----
> From: asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-
> bounces@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Bosch
> Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 5:51 PM
> To: davis@5-9Networks.com; Asterisk Users Mailing List -
Non-Commercial
> Discussion
> Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] While the VoIP-Info.org site is down...
> 
> Davis Sylvester III wrote:
> > If needed I can put up a wiki for asterisk support, and allow
> > mirroring.  I know we have to start over from ground zero, but it
gets
> > us back online with our life line.  Let me know if you guys want me
to
> > proceed.  There would be no charge for us hosting the site.
> 
> This is one of those cases where deeds speak louder than words. If you
> have a server available, put it up. Tell us where it is and we can
start
> putting stuff from the Google cache in it.
> 
> If you can, make it use Mediawiki. The editing interface is much
> friendlier.
> 
> It is looking increasingly like voip-info.org is history, anyway --
and
> you're right, we do need something.
> 
> -Stephen-
> 
Anyone that thinks is will not come back online has not been around the
asterisk community very long.  This was the regular (2-3 times a week).
It would go down for a day, a couple days, a couple hours, and then it
would come back up.

If it really was hacked, then lets hope someone was doing a backup.  If
not, spidering the internet archive will get a good deal of it back.

Thanks,
Steve

So does anyone know when Voip-info.org will be back up?

Best regards,

Al Bochter
Bochter Services
http://www.BochterServices.com/?t=Email



Steve Totaro wrote:
>Is it wise to use an outage to promote your business, not on the user's
>list and not multiple times?  Put it in your signature or something ;-)
>
>Thanks,
>Steve Totaro
>http://www.asteriskhelpdesk.com
>KB3OPB
> 
>
>  
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-
>>bounces@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Shane Breen
>>Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 5:34 PM
>>To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
>>Subject: [asterisk-users] While the VoIP-Info.org site is down...
>>
>>Feel free to use:  http://www.thetelecomdirectory.com/forum
>>
>>If you register your company here as well:
>>http://www.thetelecomdirectory.com You will be able to upload white
>>papers,
>>list your company in our directory, release press releases all for
>>    
>>
>FREE.
>  
>
>>Here is where you do all of the above:
>>http://www.thetelecomdirectory.com/signup/signup.asp
>>
>>If you want to see how The Telecom Directory ranks visit:
>>http://www.alexa.com/search?q=thetelecomdirectory.com
>>
>>Hopefully VoIP-Info will come back up but in the meantime use the site
>>    
>>
>to
>  
>
>>its full potential. IT IS FREE.....
>>
>>
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Matt Riddell (NZ)" <matt.riddell@sineapps.com>
>>To: "Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion"
>><asterisk-users@lists.digium.com>
>>Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 4:22 PM
>>Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] RE: what happened to asterisk wiki???
>>
>>
>>    
>>
>>>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>>>Hash: SHA1
>>>
>>>JR Richardson wrote:
>>>      
>>>
>>>>A friend of mine was on the site yesterday, late morning, when
he
>>>>refreshed his screen, a banner came across the web page
"VOIP
>>>>        
>>>>
>SUCKS"
>  
>
>>>>and then the site was no longer available.  I'm pretty sure
the
>>>>        
>>>>
>site
>  
>
>>>>was compromised by some hacker trying to prove a point or make a
>>>>statement.  Not to throw stink on anyone or group, but maybe it
was
>>>>someone from a competing open source VoIP project or one of the
Big
>>>>Iron VoIP System Manufacturers.  Probably just some cracker with
>>>>        
>>>>
>too
>  
>
>>>>much time on their hands.  I feel like someone shot my dog,
please
>>>>        
>>>>
>get
>  
>
>>>>the site back up as soon as possible.
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>There was a post about a security vulnerability in wiki on bugtraq a
>>>couple of days ago, but it looked more like someone had figured out
>>>      
>>>
>how
>  
>
>>>to edit pages (pointless considering a wiki is open anyway).
>>>
>>>- --
>>>Cheers,
>>>
>>>Matt Riddell
>>>Director
>>>_______________________________________________
>>>
>>>http://www.sineapps.com/news.php (Daily Asterisk News - html)
>>>http://wap.sineapps.com (Daily Asterisk News for your cellphone)
>>>http://feeds.feedburner.com/AsteriskNews (Daily Asterisk News - rss)
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>>>Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (MingW32)
>>>Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org
>>>
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>>>NV4lAmOkaISR79fBTjajGw8>>>=u7sc
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[Al Bochter wrote on 15/03/2007 12:25 PM]:
> So does anyone know when Voip-info.org will be back up?
There is a message on the list from James Thompson with the subject
"voip-info.org status update" saying it suffered a major hard drive
crash and should be back tomorrow.

Looking at the headers that message was sent two hours before yours.

Regards
Darryl

>>>>> "DC" == Dave Cotton
<dcotton@linuxautrement.com> writes:
DC> I never could understand how a RAID could be made up using SCSI
DC> disks seeing that they are certainly not inexpensive.

Small Computer Systems Interface. SCSI was vastly cheaper and
(perceived as, at least) less reliable than the proper mainframe disks
at the time.


/Benny

Quoting shadowym <shadowym@hotmail.com>:
>
> 75% failure at EXACTLY the same time?  Come on!  We all know better than
> that.
>
> Probably lost one drive at a time over weeks or months with no automated
> warnings!
>
> Amateur hour!
a power supply or backplane problem could easily physically damage the entire
array.

a bus or controller problem could also destroy the data on all drives 
making it
equally useless.

Unless you were there, cut the guy some slack since you don't know the 
details.



>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Patrick May [mailto:patrick@pmmay.sytes.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 8:10 PM
> To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
> Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] While the VoIP-Info.org site is down...
>
> On Wed, Mar 14, 2007 at 10:05:20PM -0400, Matt wrote:
>> Yikes.. you'd think a server would be running RAID.
>>
>> At any rate.. Please feel free to visit http://www.voip-wiki.us
>>
>> I have set this up to be able to hold information for the Asterisk
>> community.  I will also gladly allow others to mirror it.
>>
>> It is sitting in a climate controlled data center in Central PA on a
>> server with RAID.  Additionally, it is at the end of
>> 95Megabytes/second on a BGP redundant connection.
>>
>> Please feel free to use it, if the community feels it can be useful...
>> additionally, I would love to setup some rsync mirrors with others so
>> that we can have redundant backups of this very valuable information.
>
> The previous message to the list was they lost 3 of 4 drives in the array.
> I'm not sure of any RAID that can sustain 75% hardware loss and still
> function.
>
> Patrick
>
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