M.Hockings
2006-Jun-17 17:35 UTC
[Asterisk-Users] Which phones are good, or at least acceptable, for home and office
I am looking to replace all of the old "Bell" (POTS) phones in my home and office with IP phones. As you can imagine I don't have a huge budget to work with but I want phones that will provide acceptable voice quality and durability. There are basically three categories as I see it 1. satellite phones (low cost, low function) 2. primary domestic phone (good quality, POE capable, headset capable) 3. primary office phone (good quality, headset, speaker phone) In most places the LAN wiring is already in place so the phone would need to be able to provide a LAN port for an existing computer. POE would be desirable in a couple of places due to limited power outlets. What I have considered is the Grandstream BudgeTone BT-102 or BT-200 for the satellite phones, a Grandstream GXP-2000 for the domestic phone as it has all the requirements and there is a POE device available for it. My alternative pick for this would be a Polycom 301. And for my office I was considering a Polycom 501. Are any of these choices known to be bad performers, hard to configure with Asterisk, etc. I have read that it is difficult or not possible to get the message waiting indicator to show for the BT-102. Is this a problem with the GXP-2000 or Polycom phones ? Also is it possible to use the Linksys POE injector/splitter to power a BT-102 ? Or are there other solutions for POE? Some Web references follow for the keen. Thanks for any thoughts or input on this. Mike Linksys POE Injector/Splitter http://www.insight.ca/apps/productpresentation/index.php?format=print&product_id=LNKPPOE12 BT-102 http://www.canadianvoipstore.com/product_info.php?cPath=95_105&products_id=40 GXP-2000 http://www.canadianvoipstore.com/product_info.php?cPath=95_106&products_id=331 Polycom 301 http://www.canadianvoipstore.com/product_info.php?products_id=757 Polycom 501 http://www.canadianvoipstore.com/product_info.php?products_id=758
Michael Graves
2006-Jun-17 19:17 UTC
[Asterisk-Users] Which phones are good, or at least acceptable, for home and office
I can't tell you how many times I've seen broad questions like this posted to the list.. The wiki (www.voip-info.org) is your friend. Use it. There's a lot of good advise there. Google is also your friend. Use it, too. Most especially use it to search the list archives. There was just a long thread about this a few days ago. Finally, you can do what I did...buy some phones, try them for a while then resell the ones you don't like. Ebay is a great toolo for this. I bought and sold eight different model of SIP phones before settling upon what I use today. When you've gained enough experience to have some well founded opinions add to the wiki. Lastly, if you're going to buy serious desk phones try the Aastra 480i CT and the Polycom IP600/601. Life's too short to use a cheap phone. Michael On Sat, 17 Jun 2006 20:35:02 -0400, M.Hockings wrote:>I am looking to replace all of the old "Bell" (POTS) phones in my home >and office with IP phones. As you can imagine I don't have a huge >budget to work with but I want phones that will provide acceptable voice >quality and durability.>There are basically three categories as I see it >1. satellite phones (low cost, low function) >2. primary domestic phone (good quality, POE capable, headset capable) >3. primary office phone (good quality, headset, speaker phone)>In most places the LAN wiring is already in place so the phone would >need to be able to provide a LAN port for an existing computer. POE >would be desirable in a couple of places due to limited power outlets.>What I have considered is the Grandstream BudgeTone BT-102 or BT-200 for >the satellite phones, a Grandstream GXP-2000 for the domestic phone as >it has all the requirements and there is a POE device available for it. >My alternative pick for this would be a Polycom 301. And for my office >I was considering a Polycom 501.>Are any of these choices known to be bad performers, hard to configure >with Asterisk, etc. I have read that it is difficult or not possible to >get the message waiting indicator to show for the BT-102. Is this a >problem with the GXP-2000 or Polycom phones ?>Also is it possible to use the Linksys POE injector/splitter to power a >BT-102 ? Or are there other solutions for POE?>Some Web references follow for the keen.>Thanks for any thoughts or input on this.>Mike>Linksys POE Injector/Splitter >http://www.insight.ca/apps/productpresentation/index.php?format=print&product_id=LNKPPOE12>BT-102 >http://www.canadianvoipstore.com/product_info.php?cPath=95_105&products_id=40>GXP-2000 >http://www.canadianvoipstore.com/product_info.php?cPath=95_106&products_id=331>Polycom 301 >http://www.canadianvoipstore.com/product_info.php?products_id=757>Polycom 501 >http://www.canadianvoipstore.com/product_info.php?products_id=758>_______________________________________________ >--Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -->Asterisk-Users mailing list >To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/attachments/20060617/adc02320/attachment.htm
Lacy Moore - Aspendora
2006-Jun-17 19:20 UTC
[Asterisk-Users] Which phones are good, or at least acceptable, for home and office
The Grandstream seem to be a crap shoot. Some people have real good luck, others don't. So far, I've got four of them in use and the users seem to be happy. The only drawback that I have is that there is no way I can even attempt to try to explain the complex method that you have to use to PARK a call. Their attended transfers are weird. I really like the ringer that calls out the caller ID. It's because of that, that I might put them in my house. However, I still have a CIDCO device that reads out the caller ID. My house is small enough that I can hear it all over the house. I would also like to try out the Aastra 9133. It's a little more than the GXP2000. And, I have noticed the handset gets warm on the GXP. Others have mentioned this. For more information, including things already discussed about the Grandstreams, you can try: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=site%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Flists.digium.com%2Fpipermail%2Fasterisk-users%2F+grandstream or This site http://www.asteriskguru.com/archives/asterisk-users-vf2.html?sid=d6b13ed5fdbe5159999037bc9738c24f contains a complete archive of this list in forum format. On 6/17/06, M.Hockings <veeshooter@hockings.net> wrote:> > I am looking to replace all of the old "Bell" (POTS) phones in my home > and office with IP phones. As you can imagine I don't have a huge > budget to work with but I want phones that will provide acceptable voice > quality and durability. > > There are basically three categories as I see it > 1. satellite phones (low cost, low function) > 2. primary domestic phone (good quality, POE capable, headset capable) > 3. primary office phone (good quality, headset, speaker phone) > > In most places the LAN wiring is already in place so the phone would > need to be able to provide a LAN port for an existing computer. POE > would be desirable in a couple of places due to limited power outlets. > > What I have considered is the Grandstream BudgeTone BT-102 or BT-200 for > the satellite phones, a Grandstream GXP-2000 for the domestic phone as > it has all the requirements and there is a POE device available for it. > My alternative pick for this would be a Polycom 301. And for my office > I was considering a Polycom 501. > > Are any of these choices known to be bad performers, hard to configure > with Asterisk, etc. I have read that it is difficult or not possible to > get the message waiting indicator to show for the BT-102. Is this a > problem with the GXP-2000 or Polycom phones ? > > Also is it possible to use the Linksys POE injector/splitter to power a > BT-102 ? Or are there other solutions for POE? > > Some Web references follow for the keen. > > Thanks for any thoughts or input on this. > > Mike > > Linksys POE Injector/Splitter > > http://www.insight.ca/apps/productpresentation/index.php?format=print&product_id=LNKPPOE12 > > > > BT-102 > > http://www.canadianvoipstore.com/product_info.php?cPath=95_105&products_id=40 > > GXP-2000 > > http://www.canadianvoipstore.com/product_info.php?cPath=95_106&products_id=331 > > Polycom 301 > http://www.canadianvoipstore.com/product_info.php?products_id=757 > > Polycom 501 > http://www.canadianvoipstore.com/product_info.php?products_id=758 > > _______________________________________________ > --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- > > Asterisk-Users mailing list > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users >-- Lacy Moore Aspendora, Inc. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/attachments/20060617/b0db0874/attachment.htm
Steve Jones
2006-Jun-19 06:20 UTC
[Asterisk-Users] Which phones are good, or at least acceptable, for home and office
I liked the ringer that read the phone number too, but a couple months ago, I did a firmware upgrade, and that ringer option went away... Do you have the latest firmware?? I upgraded because of a problem with my phone losing registration, which is now fixed, but I lost that really cool feature... Any idea how to get that back? -Steve ________________________________ From: Lacy Moore - Aspendora [mailto:aspendora@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2006 10:21 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Which phones are good, or at least acceptable,for home and office The Grandstream seem to be a crap shoot. Some people have real good luck, others don't. So far, I've got four of them in use and the users seem to be happy. The only drawback that I have is that there is no way I can even attempt to try to explain the complex method that you have to use to PARK a call. Their attended transfers are weird. I really like the ringer that calls out the caller ID. It's because of that, that I might put them in my house. However, I still have a CIDCO device that reads out the caller ID. My house is small enough that I can hear it all over the house. I would also like to try out the Aastra 9133. It's a little more than the GXP2000. And, I have noticed the handset gets warm on the GXP. Others have mentioned this. For more information, including things already discussed about the Grandstreams, you can try: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=site%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Flists.digiu m.com%2Fpipermail%2Fasterisk-users%2F+grandstream or This site http://www.asteriskguru.com/archives/asterisk-users-vf2.html?sid=d6b13ed 5fdbe5159999037bc9738c24f contains a complete archive of this list in forum format. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/attachments/20060619/8040b869/attachment.htm
Steve Jones
2006-Jun-19 11:11 UTC
[Asterisk-Users] Which phones are good, or at least acceptable, for home and office
I found a message on this list, that provided a recommendation to use 195.140.132.34, which I think is a non-afflilated someone that just happens to be providing tested firmwares. I couldn't get the default to work... What server do you use? What firmware do you have? I've got a GS100... Here's my info: Product Model: ? BT100 REV 2.0 Software Version: ? Program-- 1.0.8.16 ???Bootloader-- 1.0.8.9 ???HTML-- 1.0.8.16 ???VOC-- 1.0.1.0 ________________________________________ From: Lacy Moore - Aspendora [mailto:aspendora@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 11:54 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Which phones are good, or at least acceptable,for home and office Steve, that happened to me too.? I downloaded the public release (not beta) and it was included.? I noticed that the new firmware includes a different ringer.? I guess they decided we didn't need that ringer.? ? Do you update off of their system, or do you have your own tftp server? ? On 6/19/06, Steve Jones <sjones@ftdata.com> wrote: I liked the ringer that read the phone number too, but a couple months ago, I did a firmware upgrade, and that ringer option went away...? Do you have the latest firmware??? I upgraded because of a problem with my phone losing registration, which is now fixed, but I lost that really cool feature... ? Any idea how to get that back? ? -Steve ? ________________________________________ From: Lacy Moore - Aspendora [mailto: aspendora@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2006 10:21 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Which phones are good, or at least acceptable,for home and office ? The Grandstream seem to be a crap shoot.? Some people have real good luck, others don't.? So far, I've got four of them in use and the users seem to be happy.? The only drawback that I have is that there is no way I can even attempt to try to explain the complex method that you have to use to PARK a call.? Their attended transfers are weird.? I really like the ringer that calls out the caller ID.? It's because of that, that I might put them in my house.? However, I still have a CIDCO device that reads out the caller ID.? My house is small enough that I can hear it all over the house.? I would also like to try out the Aastra 9133.? It's a little more than the GXP2000.? And, I have noticed the handset gets warm on the GXP.? Others have mentioned this. ? For more information, including things already discussed about the Grandstreams, you can try: ? http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=site%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Flists.digium.com%2Fpipermail%2Fasterisk-users%2F+grandstream ? or ? This site http://www.asteriskguru.com/archives/asterisk-users-vf2.html?sid=d6b13ed5fdbe5159999037bc9738c24f ?contains a complete archive of this list in forum format. ? _______________________________________________ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: ? http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- Lacy Moore Aspendora, Inc.