I am having a Dell Inspiron 1440 laptop. This does not have virtualization support.I want Virtualization Technology support in this laptop. What should I do 1) should I get motherboard replaced 2) or should I get processor replaced. 3) or I need to get both motherboard and processor replaced A lot of virtualization related work I am not able to do because of hardware constraint. Any suggestion will be helpful. -- Regards Abhi _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
On 16 October 2011 14:46, Abhishek Dixit <abhidixit87@gmail.com> wrote:> I am having a Dell Inspiron 1440 laptop. This does not have > virtualization support.I want Virtualization Technology support in > this laptop. > > What should I do > 1) should I get motherboard replaced > 2) or should I get processor replaced.The substitution of the processor is sufficient. Of course if you get a VT-x or AMD-v CPU enabled, you will have the possibility to have the virtualization technology support. Actually, even if I had the same problem on a Desktop PC, it was sufficient to buy a new CPU with VT-x support. The motherboard should be bought only if it doesn''t support the new CPU. Note that, many laptops don''t give the possibility to enable the VT-x through the BIOS (like my case), even the CPU supports it. In this case, there are alternative procedures to get it enabled! ;-) Bye, -- Flavio _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Abhishek Dixit
2011-Oct-17 02:38 UTC
Re: [Xen-users] Need Virtualization Support in laptop
On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 6:23 PM, Flavio <fbcyborg@gmail.com> wrote:> On 16 October 2011 14:46, Abhishek Dixit <abhidixit87@gmail.com> wrote: >> I am having a Dell Inspiron 1440 laptop. This does not have >> virtualization support.I want Virtualization Technology support in >> this laptop. >> >> What should I do >> 1) should I get motherboard replaced >> 2) or should I get processor replaced. > The substitution of the processor is sufficient. > Of course if you get a VT-x or AMD-v CPU enabled, you > will have the possibility to have the virtualization technology > support. > Actually, even if I had the same problem on a Desktop PC, it > was sufficient to buy a new CPU with VT-x support. > The motherboard should be bought only if it doesn''t support the > new CPU.Thanks> Note that, many laptops don''t give the possibility to enable the VT-x > through the BIOS (like my case), even the CPU supports it. In this > case, there are alternative procedures to get it enabled! ;-) >Yes I understand :) -- Regards Abhi _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Fajar A. Nugraha
2011-Oct-17 03:37 UTC
Re: [Xen-users] Need Virtualization Support in laptop
On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 9:38 AM, Abhishek Dixit <abhidixit87@gmail.com> wrote:> On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 6:23 PM, Flavio <fbcyborg@gmail.com> wrote: >> On 16 October 2011 14:46, Abhishek Dixit <abhidixit87@gmail.com> wrote: >>> I am having a Dell Inspiron 1440 laptop. This does not have >>> virtualization support.I want Virtualization Technology support in >>> this laptop.Do you mean VT-x (the x86 cpu virtualization) or VT-d (I/O MMU)? If it''s VT-x, usually I''d say don''t bother. Just use virtualbox that can use software virtualization with decent performance, and you''d be able to run most 32bit guest OS. If it''s VT-d, then your best is to change the CPU. IMHO there''s not much use for it for laptops though.>>> >>> What should I do >>> 1) should I get motherboard replaced >>> 2) or should I get processor replaced. >> The substitution of the processor is sufficient.I don''t think Dell supports replacing your laptop CPU. It might be better to just sell it and get a new one. AFAIK most laptop CPU don''t support VT-d (even i5-based usually have 2410M, which doesn''t have it). If you REALLY need VT-d, your best bet might be getting i7 CPU. -- Fajar _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Abhishek Dixit
2011-Oct-17 04:59 UTC
Re: [Xen-users] Need Virtualization Support in laptop
On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 9:07 AM, Fajar A. Nugraha <list@fajar.net> wrote:> On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 9:38 AM, Abhishek Dixit <abhidixit87@gmail.com> wrote: >> On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 6:23 PM, Flavio <fbcyborg@gmail.com> wrote: >>> On 16 October 2011 14:46, Abhishek Dixit <abhidixit87@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> I am having a Dell Inspiron 1440 laptop. This does not have >>>> virtualization support.I want Virtualization Technology support in >>>> this laptop. > > Do you mean VT-x (the x86 cpu virtualization) or VT-d (I/O MMU)?Sorry I do not fully understand the difference between the two. I want to run 64 bit guest OS on my laptop.>IMHO there''s not > much use for it for laptops though.Actually I am an unemployed sys admin who does not have access to servers.So my only deal is either I work on my own laptop or a home computer which is again an old one.>>>> >>>> What should I do >>>> 1) should I get motherboard replaced >>>> 2) or should I get processor replaced. >>> The substitution of the processor is sufficient. > > I don''t think Dell supports replacing your laptop CPU. It might be > better to just sell it and get a new one. AFAIK most laptop CPU don''t > support VT-d (even i5-based usually have 2410M, which doesn''t have > it). If you REALLY need VT-d, your best bet might be getting i7 CPU. > > --Thanks for this information I will dig it further. -- _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Fajar A. Nugraha
2011-Oct-17 05:17 UTC
Re: [Xen-users] Need Virtualization Support in laptop
On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 11:59 AM, Abhishek Dixit <abhidixit87@gmail.com> wrote:> On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 9:07 AM, Fajar A. Nugraha <list@fajar.net> wrote: >> On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 9:38 AM, Abhishek Dixit <abhidixit87@gmail.com> wrote: >>> On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 6:23 PM, Flavio <fbcyborg@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> On 16 October 2011 14:46, Abhishek Dixit <abhidixit87@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> I am having a Dell Inspiron 1440 laptop. This does not have >>>>> virtualization support.I want Virtualization Technology support in >>>>> this laptop. >> >> Do you mean VT-x (the x86 cpu virtualization) or VT-d (I/O MMU)? > Sorry I do not fully understand the difference between the two.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X86_virtualization> I want to run 64 bit guest OS on my laptop.You only need VT-x. Are you sure it doesn''t have VT? Anyway, if it doesn''t, you can either: - use 32bit OS only. It''d be sufficient for most purposes. OR - buy a new one. A new Dell N4050 with core i5-2410M, 4GB memory, no OS, should be around $600. It has VT-x, but no VT-d. Should be enough for your needs. If you''re REALLY budget-limited, newer netbooks with Atom-570, 2GB RAM, no OS should be around $300. Either one should be better supported than just upgrading your CPU. -- Fajar _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users