Nathan I. Sharfi
2001-Oct-06 15:56 UTC
[vorbis] OT: CD anti-copying techniques, and their pervasiveness (was: Re: [vorbis] More on CD anti-copying techniques)
On Tue, 2 Oct 2001, safemode wrote:> On Tuesday 02 October 2001 08:14, Nathan I. Sharfi wrote: > > I doubt this; why would any self-respecting label advertise that their > > music is capable of being ripped and distributed electronically? > > > > On Tue, 2 Oct 2001, safemode wrote: > > > > <snip> > > > > > You're probably going to see record labels advertising True cds to try > > > and get more sales than those advertising the retarded broken cds with > > > wma crap on them. > > > > None of them have been advertising that they can get ripped yet and they all > can. You'll find some labels selling on the point that their competitors > cds are broken and sub-quality and shorter.I can't imagine when the last time labels actually made themselves visible on the floor of the local Best Buy or other outlet for shrinkwrapped music.> Compatibility is always a great > seller. The cd ripping population is quite large and they wont be happy with > those record companies doing this when it goes full scale.Compatibility is a great seller--however, given that it's nearly impossible to get a refund on one of these so-called "broken" (not that I disagree...) CDs, what do we have to voice our disgust other than more elaborate ripping/protection circumvention techniques?> I'm not paranoid that the entire world is becoming corporate and all. I have > absolute faith that this "anti-pirating technique" will be broken quite > quickly and everything will return to business as usual.It'll be circumvented eventually, but that doesn't mean labels won't keep trying. I'd consider _that_ to be business as usual from now on.> If it hasn't been > already. Lucky for me, none of the music i listen to comes from any major > record labels and something tells me the indie labels will be slow if at all > to come on board with this crap.Yeah, especially compared with the added cost of implementing all this... I still listen to some popular music, though... --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ Ogg project homepage: http://www.xiph.org/ogg/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'vorbis-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.
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Jay Sprenkle
2001-Oct-08 11:24 UTC
[vorbis] OT: CD anti-copying techniques, and their pervasiveness (was: Re:[vorbis] More on CD anti-copying techniques)
> > I'm not paranoid that the entire world is becoming corporate and all. I have > > absolute faith that this "anti-pirating technique" will be broken quite > > quickly and everything will return to business as usual. > It'll be circumvented eventually, but that doesn't mean labels won't keep > trying. I'd consider _that_ to be business as usual from now on. >There's already a page up showing a mechanical technique that breaks this protection. No software involved at all, just placing stickers over the portion of the disk that confuses the software that locates the audio tracks. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ Ogg project homepage: http://www.xiph.org/ogg/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'vorbis-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.