I''m currently experimenting with ZFS to gain experience for an early production deployment (probably even in Solaris 10 Update 2 Beta). There''s one case where I''m running into a problem. Consider the following filesystem hierarchy (for the OpenSolaris sources and objects), located on sequoia, an Enterprise 3000 currently running snv_33: /export/os /export/os/src /export/os/src/on-20060307 /export/os/obj/i386/on-20060307 (clone of /export/os/src/on-20060307) /export/os/obj/sparc/on-20060307 (another clone of /export/os/src/on-20060307) and probably more clones (e.g. derived from the previous ones to quickly build/test smaller changes). If I want to automount this on other systems instead of having several copies of the workspaces locally on the clients, to achieve the following client-side layout /opt/os /opt/os/src /opt/os/src/on-20060307 /opt/os/obj /opt/os/obj/on-20060307 (corresponding to $CPU of the client) I could only come up with the following map structure: /etc/auto_master: /opt auto_opt_sol2 /etc/auto_opt_sol2: os \ / sequoia:/export/os \ /src -fstype=autofs auto_opt_os_src \ /obj -fstype=autofs auto_opt_os_obj /etc/auto_opt_os_src: * sequoia:/export/os/src/& /etc/auto_opt_os_obj: * sequoia:/export/os/obj/$CPU/& This has a couple of problems: * I cannot access /opt/os/src directly, only subdirs, and loose browsability, unless I want to manually add every subdir to the relevant maps. * This causes an inconvenient explosion of the number of maps if there are several hierarches where one wants to take advantage of ZFS snapshots/clones in a similar way. This is especially tedious with YP (which we still use) since initially getting the maps to the yp slaves is a cumbersome (manual) process. All this is probably unavoidable with NFSv2/v3, since every subdir needs to be mounted individually, but with NFSv4 it should be possible to mount a couple of high-level directories to achieve the desired client-side filesystem layout and be able to access the subdirs without individual mounts. To avoid the explosion in the number of maps, it would be convenient to have multi-level indirect maps, e.g. something like os \ / sequoia:/export/os \ /src \ / sequoia:/export/os/src \ /* sequoia:/export/os/src/& \ /obj \ / sequoia:/export/os/obj/$CPU \ /* sequoia:/export/os/obj/$CPU/& I couldn''t get this or something similar to work right now, and also ran into the problem that & seems to expand to the primary key (os in this case) only, so you have no way to refer to the expansion of /* here. Also, I stumbled across the lack of umount -f support for AutoFS: I had misconstructed the maps several times during my experiments, and was later unable to umount e.g. /opt/os/obj on the client (an autofs mount) if the map entry had changed. I only get EBUSY; the only `solution'' was to reboot the clients ;-( This may be a last resort during testing, but is a nightmare if production systems are affected (which happened to me before). Last but not least, where''s the best place to discuss Automounter/AutoFS issues? I could only think of the NFS community for now, maybe there should be a broader filesystem community with an Automounter/AutoFS (and separate NFS, ZFS, UFS, ...) projects? Rainer ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Rainer Orth, Faculty of Technology, Bielefeld University