Hi all, I wanted to propose to move the legacy XCP binaries from XenProject.org to XenServer.org. With XenServer being fully open source and XCP basically being a variant of XenServer, it would make a lot more sense to keep all these binaries with XenServer.org. The fact that we have XCP and XenServer.org in two different places has led to: * fragmentation of the XCP user community * it is also a constant source of confusion in the user community In a nutshell many people don't know whether they should go to XenServer.org to ask XCP related questions or whether to ask them on XenProject.org. As a result many questions remain unanswered. Russell and me spend a lot of our time, pointing people to the right place and/or cross-posting. I was hoping things would get better over time, but they have not improved. When the Xen Project was created, there was no real alternative but to keep XCP as part of the Xen Project. With XenServer being fully open source, and being established, there is no reason why we can't clean up some of the confusion. In my opinion we really should do this. This proposal does *not* affect the XAPI project : the XAPI project would continue to develop the XAPI toolstack as part of the Xen Project (and deliver source "releases"). In fact, I would also propose to make the xapi mailing list a developer mailing list. This fits much better with how the Hypervisor and MirageOS projects are run and creates an overall cleaner and easier to understand model for the Xen Project. I have in principle agreement from: * The Xen Project Advisory Board and the Linux Foundation (which is needed as I am proposing to move assets out of XenProject.org) * Citrix to take on XCP as part of XenProject.org * Citrix to provide resources to migrate content and redirect URLs from xxx.XenProject.org to XenServer.org such that people wont be impacted. This part is quite important. People who would come to download or find information about XCP, are basically encouraged to ask XCP related questions on XenProject.org. If they are redirected to the right place in XenServer.org, that does mean that they are redirected to the site where they should ask questions. * I may be able to get some resources to have the wiki cleaned up too and do some redirects there too (another source of ongoing confusion) == Who and how to vote? = As this is not an entirely project local decision, I propose that according to http://xenproject.org/governance.html - Members of all developer mailing lists (including the user lists) on Xenproject.org can review the proposal and voice an opinion - Maintainers of*all mature*projects and the Xenproject.org community manager are allowed to vote : these are maintainers of xen-devel and xen-api You would vote by replying "+1" If you don't care vote "0" If you object, vote "-1", which must include an alternative proposal or a detailed explanation of the reasons for the negative vote. Please vote by Feb 25th Best Regards Lars _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xen.org http://lists.xen.org/xen-users