Xapian discuss - Aug 2006 - xapian vs lucene.net

Just a short, amusing note.
Today I presented my xapian/omega project in my company, and a colleague 
of mine did the same project in the last month using lucene.net and 
mediawiki. I use phpwiki as frontend.

Well, what should I say. Though Lucene.net has much better windows 
support, esp. pdf and outlook integration and also notify hooks to 
reindex automatically changed documents, my approach got the sanctus to 
be developed further.
We found everything we looked for, in a very short time, with the best 
ranking ad hoc, compared to lucene, and the omega layout was much better.

Though our userbase is a closed community, only company internally, I 
believe I may contribute the enhancements back to xapian.
-- 
Reini Urban
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Rafael Jorge schrieb:
> Well, your message smell like a Troll (I hope that isn't), btw...
> This discussion fall in "my dad is better than your", I like
Xapian, the
> Lucene for me is very "Java", and I don't like it, today I
can write
> programs in too much languages with the same Search Backend.
> 
> Good to you that Lucene is better for your case, but not for me, and 
> anothers people.
You misunderstood that.
xapian was better for my company, so I can continue to improve my 
patches and I'll have for more time for xapian/omega in the next year.
> I don't like discuss what is the better tool for some work.
> 
> On 8/30/06, *Reini Urban* <rurban@x-ray.at
<mailto:rurban@x-ray.at>> wrote:
>     Just a short, amusing note.
>     Today I presented my xapian/omega project in my company, and a
>     colleague
>     of mine did the same project in the last month using lucene.net
>     <http://lucene.net> and
>     mediawiki. I use phpwiki as frontend.
> 
>     Well, what should I say. Though Lucene.net <http://Lucene.net>
has
>     much better windows
>     support, esp. pdf and outlook integration and also notify hooks to
>     reindex automatically changed documents, my approach got the sanctus to
>     be developed further.
>     We found everything we looked for, in a very short time, with the best
>     ranking ad hoc, compared to lucene, and the omega layout was much
>     better.
> 
>     Though our userbase is a closed community, only company internally, I
>     believe I may contribute the enhancements back to xapian.

Folks,

We too were looking down the roads of adopting either Lucene, Xapian or Swish-e.
At certain points during the architectural phase a good thorough comparison
would have/still is worth MUCH, and some technical papers do exist from research
universities (e.g.
http://www.cdlib.org/inside/projects/xtf/Search_Engine_Comparison.pdf). I have
not spent a lot of time looking for papers from Symposium Proceedings, Technical
Journals, etc, so perhaps others can contribute/comment -- and boy is this an
annual event on respective project lists(!)? Otherwise I see that then entire
transcript of the flame-exchange was not posted, but would be very amused to
read it (naturally off the list) :-) :-)

Thanks,
-OSC
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Reini Urban" <rurban@x-ray.at>
> To: xapian-discuss@lists.xapian.org
> Subject: Re: [Xapian-discuss] xapian vs lucene.net
> Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 20:54:18 +0200
> 
> 
> Rafael Jorge schrieb:
> > Well, your message smell like a Troll (I hope that isn't), btw...
> > This discussion fall in "my dad is better than your", I like
> > Xapian, the Lucene for me is very "Java", and I don't
like it,
> > today I can write programs in too much languages with the same 
> > Search Backend.
> >
> > Good to you that Lucene is better for your case, but not for me, 
> > and anothers people.
> 
> You misunderstood that.
> xapian was better for my company, so I can continue to improve my 
> patches and I'll have for more time for xapian/omega in the next 
> year.
> 
> > I don't like discuss what is the better tool for some work.
> >
> > On 8/30/06, *Reini Urban* <rurban@x-ray.at
<mailto:rurban@x-ray.at>> wrote:
> >     Just a short, amusing note.
> >     Today I presented my xapian/omega project in my company, and a
> >     colleague
> >     of mine did the same project in the last month using lucene.net
> >     <http://lucene.net> and
> >     mediawiki. I use phpwiki as frontend.
> >
> >     Well, what should I say. Though Lucene.net
<http://Lucene.net> has
> >     much better windows
> >     support, esp. pdf and outlook integration and also notify hooks to
> >     reindex automatically changed documents, my approach got the
sanctus to
> >     be developed further.
> >     We found everything we looked for, in a very short time, with the
best
> >     ranking ad hoc, compared to lucene, and the omega layout was much
> >     better.
> >
> >     Though our userbase is a closed community, only company
internally, I
> >     believe I may contribute the enhancements back to xapian.

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