aarsh shah
2013-Feb-19 17:51 UTC
[Xapian-devel] Implementing tf-idf weighting scheme in Xapian
Hello guys.I just read up about tf-idf schemes and want to implement it in Xapian (with some frequently used normalizations) as it will also give me a good hang of implementing a weighting scheme before I start working on implementing DFR schemes. I read the following as references and I think Ive understood it well and can write the hack :- 1.) http://nlp.stanford.edu/IR-book/html/htmledition/document-and-query-weighting-schemes-1.html 2.) http://classes.seattleu.edu/computer_science/csse470/Madani/ABCs.html 3.) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tf%E2%80%93idf The basic philosophy is that rare terms (terms which occur in a few documents) should be able to give a higher weight to the documents they index compared to terms which occur in many documents .Also,the higher the within document frequency in the document ,more is the weight given by the term to the document. The basic formula is W(t,d)=wdf* log(N/termfreq) . However,various normalizations can be applied to both wdf and idf. The extra per document component will be 0 here and so get_maxextra( ) will return 0 . Moreover,an upper bound on W(t,d) for get_maxpart( ) can be found out easily for a particular normalization (if I have all the required metrics available). For eg:- If I am using logarithmic normalization for the wdf (within document frequency) ,then an upper bound on W(t,d) will be (log(wdf_upperbound_)+1)*log(N/termfreq) as N(collection size) and termfreq(number of documents indexed by the term t) will remain constant for a given term t. However,some normalizations for the wdf include the formula wdfn = wdf / max(wdf,d) where max(wdf,d) is the maximum within document frequency of any term in the document .This metric is not provided by the need_stat( ) function of the Xapian::Weight class and so I don't know how to procure it.Please can someone help me that ? I will work on implementing weight normalization (like cosine normalization ) once I am done implementing the scheme with various wdf and idf normalizations. Please let me know what you'll think,want to start working And I'm sorry for being late with modifying the stemmer patch based on the feedback,have tests going on at university. -Regards -Aarsh -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.xapian.org/pipermail/xapian-devel/attachments/20130219/a954368a/attachment-0001.html>
Olly Betts
2013-Feb-19 22:28 UTC
[Xapian-devel] Implementing tf-idf weighting scheme in Xapian
On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 11:21:14PM +0530, aarsh shah wrote:> The basic philosophy is that rare terms (terms which occur in a few > documents) should be able to give a higher weight to the documents they > index compared to terms which occur in many documents .Also,the higher the > within document frequency in the document ,more is the weight given by the > term to the document. > > The basic formula is W(t,d)=wdf* log(N/termfreq) . > > However,various normalizations can be applied to both wdf and idf.Both the original probabilistic formula and BM25 actually fit in this pattern too (aside from the per-document component in BM25).> The extra per document component will be 0 here and so get_maxextra( ) will > return 0 .Indeed.> Moreover,an upper bound on W(t,d) for get_maxpart( ) can be found out > easily for a particular normalization (if I have all the required metrics > available). > > For eg:- If I am using logarithmic normalization for the wdf (within > document frequency) ,then an upper bound on W(t,d) will be > (log(wdf_upperbound_)+1)*log(N/termfreq) as N(collection size) and > termfreq(number of documents indexed by the term t) will remain constant > for a given term t.Yes.> However,some normalizations for the wdf include the formula wdfn = wdf / > max(wdf,d) where max(wdf,d) is the maximum within document frequency of any > term in the document .This metric is not provided by the need_stat( ) > function of the Xapian::Weight class and so I don't know how to procure > it.Please can someone help me that ?We don't currently store that, and you can't efficiently calculate it on the fly, so you'd have to alter the backends to store this statistic. I would suggest you look at the weighting schemes which don't need new stats first, and then look at ones which do once you're more familiar with implementing weighting schemes. Cheers, Olly
aarsh shah
2013-Feb-20 05:09 UTC
[Xapian-devel] Implementing tf-idf weighting scheme in Xapian
TF-IDF also has many normalizations which will work based on all the statistics we currently provide.Ill send in a patch for a new TFIDF weight class implementing all the normalizations I can with the current statistics .Once it is up and running,I'll work on rewriting the backend for additional statistics as you said.My final aim is to provide all normalizations mentioned here:- 1.) http://nlp.stanford.edu/IR-book/html/htmledition/document-and-query-weighting-schemes-1.html -Regards -Aarsh On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 11:21 PM, aarsh shah <aarshkshah1992 at gmail.com>wrote:> Hello guys.I just read up about tf-idf schemes and want to implement it in > Xapian (with some frequently used normalizations) as it will also give me a > good hang of implementing a weighting scheme before I start working on > implementing DFR schemes. > > I read the following as references and I think Ive understood it well and > can write the hack :- > > 1.) > http://nlp.stanford.edu/IR-book/html/htmledition/document-and-query-weighting-schemes-1.html > 2.) http://classes.seattleu.edu/computer_science/csse470/Madani/ABCs.html > 3.) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tf%E2%80%93idf > > The basic philosophy is that rare terms (terms which occur in a few > documents) should be able to give a higher weight to the documents they > index compared to terms which occur in many documents .Also,the higher the > within document frequency in the document ,more is the weight given by the > term to the document. > > The basic formula is W(t,d)=wdf* log(N/termfreq) . > > However,various normalizations can be applied to both wdf and idf. > > The extra per document component will be 0 here and so get_maxextra( ) > will return 0 . > > Moreover,an upper bound on W(t,d) for get_maxpart( ) can be found out > easily for a particular normalization (if I have all the required metrics > available). > > For eg:- If I am using logarithmic normalization for the wdf (within > document frequency) ,then an upper bound on W(t,d) will be > (log(wdf_upperbound_)+1)*log(N/termfreq) as N(collection size) and > termfreq(number of documents indexed by the term t) will remain constant > for a given term t. > > However,some normalizations for the wdf include the formula wdfn = wdf / > max(wdf,d) where max(wdf,d) is the maximum within document frequency of any > term in the document .This metric is not provided by the need_stat( ) > function of the Xapian::Weight class and so I don't know how to procure > it.Please can someone help me that ? > > I will work on implementing weight normalization (like cosine > normalization ) once I am done implementing the scheme with various wdf > and idf normalizations. > > Please let me know what you'll think,want to start working And I'm sorry > for being late with modifying the stemmer patch based on the feedback,have > tests going on at university. > > -Regards > -Aarsh > >-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.xapian.org/pipermail/xapian-devel/attachments/20130220/7f2dce89/attachment.html>
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