Fine if that is you're opinion but you have given perfect arguments against the philosophy of Open souces. The error you people (at least a number) make is that not everyone that uses OS is capable of strolling thru sources and find the problem, not everyone wants to do that kind of work (they just need to get a job done) or have the time to do that kind of job. The way there has been reacted here is one like in the '60 when the IT people were considered as a sort of Gods and everybody bowed to them. Well sorry to say but those times are over and will never come back! Also you have demonstrated the negative side of OS in that there is not 1 person feeling personaly reponsable. Well I have been using for a few weeks several types of Linux and I am still not impressed by it all since (like 2 years ago) it still gives that feeling of hobbyism, everything is completely different, no logic or whatsoever. So good luck to all the Linux fans. I won't be bothering you anymore. Last but not least: I came here with a perfectly normal and simple question (how to detect whether Wine is running) and all I met were people telling me to find the error (without even thinking that such might be near to impossible) and not even a single bit of help! Again: Goodbuy!
On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 11:56 AM, antoniong <wineforum-user at winehq.org> wrote:> Fine if that is you're opinion but you have given perfect arguments against the philosophy of Open souces.How so?> Last but not least: I came here with a perfectly normal and simple question (how to detect whether Wine is running) and all I met were people telling me to find the error (without even thinking that such might be near to impossible) and not even a single bit of help!I gave you a few different ways to do it, which you apparently ignored. As I said, it's a really bad idea to do, but if you want to, the best way would be to detect the broken behavior (since many windows machines may do the same thing). Another good way is to do as Utorrent does, and make the hack optional in the settings, so that if Wine is fixed, the hack can be disabled. On a side note, you go between implying that you wrote this code and want to fix it for Wine and acting as if normal users can detect that Wine is running. How will a user allowing a program to detect Wine help, unless the program already had some hacks? Like I said, it's programmers that are concerned about this, not end users. -- -Austin
austin987 wrote:> On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 11:56 AM, antoniong <wineforum-user at winehq.org> wrote: > > > Fine if that is you're opinion but you have given perfect arguments against the philosophy of Open souces. > > > > How so? > > > > Last but not least: I came here with a perfectly normal and simple question (how to detect whether Wine is running) and all I met were people telling me to find the error (without even thinking that such might be near to impossible) and not even a single bit of help! > > > > I gave you a few different ways to do it, which you apparently > ignored. As I said, it's a really bad idea to do, but if you want to, > the best way would be to detect the broken behavior (since many > windows machines may do the same thing). Another good way is to do as > Utorrent does, and make the hack optional in the settings, so that if > Wine is fixed, the hack can be disabled. > > On a side note, you go between implying that you wrote this code and > want to fix it for Wine and acting as if normal users can detect that > Wine is running. How will a user allowing a program to detect Wine > help, unless the program already had some hacks? Like I said, it's > programmers that are concerned about this, not end users. > > -- > -AustinI nowhere wrote or even suggested that I was the one writing the code! I am the one testing a Windows app that is supposed to run under Linux using Wine. I have no access (and do not want to) to the winsource code neither do I want any access to the Wine sourcecode. To me Wine is a utility that makes it possible to run Win apps under Linux! Nothing more, nothing less. However, there seems to be a problem and with my over 40 years of programming experience I seek a solution by which the developer of the app can easily adapt his programm to the yes/no Wine. Possible consequences in the futute are his not yours and are his to decide only.