wine users - Jun 2008 - Numeric Keyboard does not work Wine 1.0 + Putty 0.60

I have searched for this problem and found this link that says this problem was
fixed (for WoW) in Wine 0.9.32 :

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6323

Is anyone else having problems with the numeric keypad not showing numbers under
Wine 1.0 ?

I have everything working for putty except this crippling problem.  I don't
feel I can offer a terminal emulator solution where you cannot use the entire
keyboard.

At this time I am going to dry to downgrade to the 0.9.32 version of Wine to see
if the numeric keypad works there.  I would imagine if this fixes the numeric
keypad for WoW it will work for a terminal emulator.

I just need the numbers to show when you press the keys when the numlock is on.

I have signed up for the bug list and I want to sign up for a maintainer under
the AppDB if I can make this work for me.  In either case I will get out the
tricks I learned to get some important things working for putty .60 under wine.

i have this problem also, when i use a keychanger tool i cant choose any numpad
keys.
the tool doesnt show them, i need to change insert delete and so on (they r on
the numpad and i need some keys there for a game), this doesnt satisfy me much.

a fix would be very appreciated by me :)

the tool is called "intes keychange".

greetz

Max Rebo wrote:
> Is anyone else having problems with the numeric keypad not showing numbers
under Wine 1.0 ?
What locale are you using? How are you switching keyboard layout?

David Gerard wrote:
> Some people like PuTTY a whole lot. (I couldn't work without it on
Windows.)

You are not on windows anymore. And even on windows I prefer cygwin + xterm over
putty. And if you have enough resources VM + Linux even better.

sry if i disturb this thread, but my problem could be similar to this or
solutions can solve both problems.

am i the only one, who cant change (or even see) numpad keys on keychanger?

http://www.programurl.com/software-keychange-downloadnow.html

i only cant change numpad keys, the rest works fine. on windows the tool shows
the keys for example as " numpad 1" or "numpad ," ...

David Gerard wrote:
> 2008/6/25 vitamin <wineforum-user at winehq.org>:
> 
> > Max Rebo wrote:
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> > > I have a real need to get the numeric keyboard working under
putty.  I want to replace scads of windows installs with linux if I can get this
solved.
> > > 
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> > So what you need putty for? What xterm is not enough?
> > 
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> 
> Some people like PuTTY a whole lot. (I couldn't work without it on
> Windows.) And it *should* work fine under Wine, after all.
> 
> As it happens, there is a Unix version of PuTTY, which is in most
> Linux distros (or can be downloaded and compiled from source). But its
> behaviour is not quite identical to the Windows version.
> 
> 
> - d.

My requirement for putty is quite understandable.  Other linux terminal
emulators try to be windows desktops with millions of lines and columns when the
desktop allows.

I am running a legacy mrp solution that runs in a 24x80 character terminal. 
Period.

Putty nicely handles 24 lines by 80 columns,  and keeps this configuration no
matter how the window it runs in is resized.  It changes the font size and
completely populates the window (if so configured).

Other emulators don't automatically increase the font size but increase the
numbers of rows and columns.  If I maximize an exterm window I now have a 24x80
window (this will never change) running in the top left corner of xterm at 80
lines and 200 columns (sic).

The legacy application is also assuming that the terminal is limited to 80
columns and sometimes things "slip" over the 80-column boundary and
the data in the 24x80 column area becomes garbled/unusable when run in a
terminal that is greater than 80 characters wide.

I have solved all of my other Wine/Putty issues except this one.  I have not
been able to get to my attempt to regress to Wine 0.9.32 to see if this fixes my
problem.  I intend to get this test done this afternoon and I will report my
progress when finished.

TIA for anyone who can show me how to do this with the latest and greatest. 
Otherwise I will have to learn how to "lock down" Wine version 0.9.32
so that it will not be updated or changed for any reason.

If there are options that let xterm or another current linux terminal emulator
run as I have described (run 24x80 maximized on a 1280x1024 desktop and fully
fill the screen with them thar LARGE characters) then please educate me.  I have
done some playing around and the results have been discouraging.  I use Konsole
all the time for my personal work, but I need putty for my company's
application needs.

-and finally- The *nix version of putty has the same problems of other emulators
on linux.  In the DOS version there is the option to increase the font size vs
increasing the number of rows and columns.  This option is not available on the
*nix version of putty.  It only increases the number of rows and columns when
the putty window is resized. arg

MaxRebo wrote:
> looki, if they solve my problem it should solve yours, too.  I will report
if I can make it work with the older version of Wine.

that would be nice. while changing insert to have another key mapped on the
numpad i also need insert in my game, so i must change other keys to insert and
so on, that is a bit crap.

Can anyone confirm that their numeric keypad -IS- working for them under wine
1.0 (numbers 0-9, /*-+.  not just the directional keys) ?   What linux distro?

I cannot believe that I am the only one noticing this problem (other than
looki).  I cannot believe it is acceptable that the numeric keypad does not
work.

I would feel better if this is not a problem on another orientation of
linux/Wine 1.0.  It would be easier to keep Wine 1.0 than my alternatives:
running an older version or trying to patch.

TIA

well :), can someone have a look at this tool.

http://www.programurl.com/software-keychange-downloadnow.html 

and maybe tell me how i can get the numpad keys appearing there?
i noticed, when i use it, the numlock keys are dead, otherwise they work.

im runiing it from console then i type strg-z, then "bg" after i can
run windows programs and they are affected by the key mapping from this tool.

Austin: Thanks for the link.  I had just confirmed that this problem exists in
the VNC session and most likely not the keyboard/CMOS configuration.

I tested using tightVNC and got the same results.  :(

Linux under VNC responds to the numeric keypad as anticipated (duh).  It does
not when Wine is part of the mix (arg).

The information from the link suggests that this is not going to be addressed
anytime soon (age of issue -and- complexity).

looki you might check the link Austin provided and vote for a fix (FWIW).

I can live with this issue since the IT department would be the only ones
affected by this issue (as things stand now).  It is a pain to not be able to
bang away at the keypad when on a roll, though.

i have no clue how this keychanger works, but as i know it is the only one which
works (if im wrong plz tell me), so it is not working v near to the hardware.

thatsy i guess a registry tweak could help but i was not able to find a
solution, keyboard.c gives me no hint about where keychanger gets its
information which key is available and which not, it may get the information
from a higher point of abstraction in wine.
or maybe a fix of the explained bug can solve it. i will vote when im registered
there.

On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 8:31 AM, Max Rebo <wineforum-user at winehq.org>
wrote:
> Can anyone confirm that their numeric keypad -IS- working for them under
wine 1.0 (numbers 0-9, /*-+.  not just the directional keys) ?   What linux
distro?
>
> I cannot believe that I am the only one noticing this problem (other than
looki).  I cannot believe it is acceptable that the numeric keypad does not
work.
>
> I would feel better if this is not a problem on another orientation of
linux/Wine 1.0.  It would be easier to keep Wine 1.0 than my alternatives:
running an older version or trying to patch.
>
> TIA
>
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Works fine for me in wine notepad (Xubuntu feisty).