Hi, I have a win98 program which seems to work in parts. It is supposed to open windows on windows [sub-windows within the program] and it does but the sub-windows flicker and there is instability. When I close I find a set of messages which I am at a loss to interpret and solve and I hope you can help: fixme:mdi:MDIRefreshMenu partially function stub err:datetime:DATETIME_WindowProc unknown msg wp=0...0 lp=0..0 err:rebar:REBAR_SIZE WM_Size out of create and flags=0..02 lPlatform=0288031-8 fixme:dialog:MSGBOX_OnInit task modal msgbox ! Not modal yet Most of the messages appear more than once except the last one. I hope the messages provide the solution! thanks -- Cheers, Serge Naggar Consulting [life is yours to make]