Lastnight i formatted by machine and started over with a fresh install of Red Hat 9 (i had been having some other problems with another program and decided it would be easier to just do a fresh install). So i did a full install of every single package (that way i would be sure i was not missing anything). so i downloaded the wine-20031016-1rh9winehq.i686.rpm file (my system is on i686) i use the command rpm -Uvh wine*.rpm it shows the install progress and finishes leaving me with the command prompt i decided to try notepad, so i type in notepad and get the error: wine: Unhandled exception (thread 0009), starting debugger... err:seh:EXE_DefaultHandling Unhandled exception code c0000005 flags 0 addr 0x401644c5 so whats the deal? i know i have the right version for my build of linux. Does anyone have an older version of wine for rh9 that i could try? I am fairly new to linux so any explanations you give i am going to need pretty detailed instructions. thanks! -jason