First of all, this isn't a troll or a flame, it's a serious question. (Well, OK, two.) Is *ANYONE* known to have *EVER* gotten WINE to work with any Xserver other than XFree86? (AccelX, MetroX?) When was the last time anyone *tested* it on anything other than XFree86? I ask this because, about five years or so ago, I was using the WINE that was current at the time on XFree86 with a Video7 VRAM-II Ergo video card. Around four years ago, I rebuilt my machine around a new motherboard with a Matrox Millennium II video card. XFree86 didn't support the Millennium II worth a damn at any resolution over 1024x768 (and even at 1024x768, it looked like crud), so I switched to using AccelX, which was pin-sharp and rock-solid at 1600x1200x32bpp@75Hz. Some months back I started trying to reinstall WINE again, and on AccelX (now v6.0, v5.1 when I started trying) I have yet to get WINE to display one window. As far as I can tell, it's simply failing to communicate with the Xserver. -- ********* Fight Back! It may not be just YOUR life at risk. ********* phil stracchino :: alaric@babcom.com :: halmayne@sourceforge.net unix ronin :::: renaissance man :::: mystic zen biker geek 2000 CBR929RR, 1991 VFR750F3 (foully murdered), 1986 VF500F (sold) Linux Now! ...because friends don't let friends use Microsoft.