Why do some of you use FLAC for lossless encoding? I've done some test and MAC filesizes were always smaller. I don't seem to see what the problem is. CH4R1ie --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ Ogg project homepage: http://www.xiph.org/ogg/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'vorbis-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.
On Wed, Aug 27, 2003 at 12:34:55PM +0200, Csaba Horvath wrote:> > Why do some of you use FLAC for lossless encoding? I've done some > test and MAC filesizes were always smaller. I don't seem to see what > the problem is. >Speaking for myself, it's just happens to be the route I took to get there: .wav --> .mp3 (aborted) --> .ogg --> .flac I didn't set out to find the best lossless encoding. Once I'd stumbled into it, FLAC seemed a *much* better choice then bzip2ed RIFFs. So after some trials and testing, I switched. You can waste a lot of time trying to optimise such choices. I don't know anything about MAC; how much smaller are the files? Perhaps FLAC can learn from it... perhaps not. Seems beneficial to stay within the Xiph stable if the tools will allow the various formats to work well together, though. John --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ Ogg project homepage: http://www.xiph.org/ogg/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'vorbis-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.
On Wednesday, August 27, 2003, 12:34:55, Csaba Horvath wrote:> Why do some of you use FLAC for lossless encoding? I've done some > test and MAC filesizes were always smaller. I don't seem to see what > the problem is.FLAC is free, open format, while Monkey's Audio isn't. -- Jernej Simoncic, jernej.simoncic@guest.arnes.si http://www2.arnes.si/~sopjsimo/ http://deepthought.ena.si/ When traveling with children on one's holidays, at least one child of any number of children will request a rest room stop exactly halfway between any two given rest areas. -- Cripp's Law --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ Ogg project homepage: http://www.xiph.org/ogg/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'vorbis-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.
Csaba Horvath wrote:> Why do some of you use FLAC for lossless encoding? I've > done some > test and MAC filesizes were always smaller. I don't seem > to see what > the problem is. > > CH4R1ie<p>Another advantage is that FLAC has asymmetrical processing, so it decodes at the same speed no matter what encoding options were chosen. In addition, it has a bit more hardware support at the moment. -Jonathan --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ Ogg project homepage: http://www.xiph.org/ogg/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'vorbis-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.
--- Csaba Horvath <ch4r1ie@freemail.hu> wrote:> Why do some of you use FLAC for lossless encoding? I've done some > test and MAC filesizes were always smaller. I don't seem to see what > the problem is.For most users, a couple % difference in filesize is usually far outweighed by FLAC's advantages (open patent free codec, portable open source (BSD) reference implementation, documented API, multi- platform, hardware support, multi-channel, etc.). http://flac.sourceforge.net/features.html http://flac.sourceforge.net/comparison.html Josh <p>__________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ Ogg project homepage: http://www.xiph.org/ogg/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'vorbis-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.