Hi: While we're on the subject, I came across this article today. All the more reason to get OGG out and happening sooner rather than later. INTERNET STREAMING MEDIA ALLIANCE FORMED Posted at December 12, 2000 09:20 AM Pacific IN AN EFFORT to create a single standard for media streaming over the Internet, five companies on Tuesday announced the founding of the Internet Streaming Media Alliance (ISMA). Apple Computer, Cisco, Kasenna, Philips Electronics and Sun Microsystems announced the founding of ISMA, saying they are joining forces to promote open standards for developing end-to-end media streaming solutions over IP (Internet protocol). The founders believe their collaboration will accelerate adoption of open standards and interoperability, while encouraging the development of competitive streaming media software, they said. For the full story: http://www.infoworld.com/articles/hn/xml/00/12/12/001212hnisma.xml?1212tupm Geoff. -- Geoff Shang <gshang10@scu.edu.au> ICQ number 43634701 --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ Ogg project homepage: http://www.xiph.org/ogg/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'vorbis-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.
On Sat, Dec 16, 2000 at 12:58:39AM +1100, Geoff Shang wrote:> For the full story: > http://www.infoworld.com/articles/hn/xml/00/12/12/001212hnisma.xml?1212tupmInteresting, but somehow I don't see this as a threat to OGG/Vorbis. Vorbis has a lot more potential use than just streaming. Even -if- this standards organization creates widely-accepted streaming media standards that exclude Vorbis, there are plenty of other reasons to continue Vorbis development. The Vorbis encoding system has, IMHO, the best potential of becoming a near-transparent audio encoder -- the quality, even in Beta2, was superior in many ways to MP3. Granted, there are artifact issues to work out, but each beta update relieves many, many of them. That aside, I think it would be interesting for Xiph to look into becoming a member/being an advisor to this new group. Having input to standards based on experience with Vorbis would benefit everyone. All in all, any open standards group is a good thing. Cheers, Darren --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ Ogg project homepage: http://www.xiph.org/ogg/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'vorbis-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.
Segher Boessenkool <segher@wanadoo.nl> writes:> To get a patent they will have to design something _new_, while actually all > they need is a stream format and some protocols. If they _do_ invent > something great && new for streaming media, why shouldn't they get a patent? > It's their legal right, after all.Would that it were this way. These days, at least in the US, all you have to do is _spell_ it new. --Mike -- [O]ne of the features of the Internet [...] is that small groups of people can greatly disturb large organizations. --Charles C. Mann --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ Ogg project homepage: http://www.xiph.org/ogg/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'vorbis-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.