Vorbis dev - Dec 2015 - A few questions about libvorbis from a newbie

Sorry about the personal reply Ian. I hope keeping the subject the same is
the way to reply to the list (I have never used a mailing list before).

The last thing I am not grasping is how *pcm_total *works without a concept
of sample size?
If the sample size is whatever I decide to read it as, how does it
calculate the number of samples (of one channel I'm assuming because we
have to multiply it)?
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Hello Martin,

Vorbis encoders are lossy, which is in a sense equivalent to converting the
sample size of the raw PCM stream into something that would result in the
desired bitrate.
The "sample size" of the compressed audio varies over time (this is
related to VBR algorithm), and as Ian has pointed out, the notion of fixed
sample size is meaningless.
Instead, the Vorbis codec packs the audio samples block by block, where a block
consists of a fixed number of samples (e.g. 4096 samples per block when audio
information is sparse, or 256 samples per block when dense).
So when the decoder fetches a block from the Ogg stream, it can determine the
number of samples inside it just by reading the "blocksize" flag in
the block header (thus you can calculate pcmtotal as the sum of blocksizes).

However, libvorbis uses a different approach to calculate pcmtotal.
It is dictated in the Vorbis I spec that all encoders must populate the absolute
granularity field (I recall this field is left for implementation-defined use)
of each Ogg packet with "the total number of PCM samples between the head
of the audio stream and the end of the packet".
libvorbis makes use of this information to seek through the audio, and to
provide information about the uncompressed PCM position, without actually
decoding the Vorbis packet enclosed in the Ogg stream.

Regards,
Hiroka
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Hiroka Ihara
Department of Information and Communication Engineering, the University of Tokyo
PC: ihara_h at live.jp

Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2015 23:10:29 -0600
From: blakemartin.official at gmail.com
To: vorbis-dev at xiph.org
Subject: [Vorbis-dev] A few questions about libvorbis from a newbie

Sorry about the personal reply Ian. I hope keeping the subject the same is the
way to reply to the list (I have never used a mailing list before).

The last thing I am not grasping is how pcm_total works without a concept of
sample size?
If the sample size is whatever I decide to read it as, how does it calculate the
number of samples (of one channel I'm assuming because we have to multiply
it)?


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