Oddsock wrote:> most of the major media players (winamp, foobar2k) come with > vorbis input plugins now.Winamp & Foobar2k are not major media players. I think around 70% of all users either use Windows Media Player or the RealOne player. Neither of which can play Vorbis streams, and this is a major hurdle in the acceptance of Vorbis streaming. I keep telling people that plugins are coming, but they seem to be taking forever. Ross. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ Ogg project homepage: http://www.xiph.org/ogg/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'vorbis-dev-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.
Helix plays Vorbis. You should also be able to use the Helix plugins with stock RealOne players. Lately I've been making improvements to the Helix Vorbis code so it works better. I'm also fixing some bugs with Icecast playback. This is a personal side project of mine so please be patient. I'm trying to get solid Vorbis playback in Helix as quickly as possible. I'm also planning on implementing the current Vorbis RTP draft for use with the Helix server. I may also experiment with some ideas I have for improving the draft so it can support things like streaming chained files and multicast playback. Aaron On Tue, 11 Nov 2003, Ross Levis wrote:> Oddsock wrote: > > most of the major media players (winamp, foobar2k) come with > > vorbis input plugins now. > > Winamp & Foobar2k are not major media players. I think around 70% of > all users either use Windows Media Player or the RealOne player. > Neither of which can play Vorbis streams, and this is a major hurdle in > the acceptance of Vorbis streaming. I keep telling people that plugins > are coming, but they seem to be taking forever. > > Ross. > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > Ogg project homepage: http://www.xiph.org/ogg/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'vorbis-dev-request@xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > >--- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ Ogg project homepage: http://www.xiph.org/ogg/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'vorbis-dev-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.
In the realm of internet radio id have to say 80% use winamp, or other players supporting http streaming. Winamp being the biggest major player and xmms for linux. Only noobs to the pc world use windows media and real player, since they are the ones thrown in your face. Once the noobs find internet radio, its a matter of seconds before they are downloading winamp. Windows media only recently with 9 started supporting shoutcast and icecast2 mp3 streaming, you would of thunk they would have figured that one out years ago. There is a ogg vorbis plugin out there for windows media 9, and yes it does work, but ill be damned if i can find the site. :/ <p><p><p><p><p>Dave St John Mediacast1 Administration ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ross Levis" <ross.levis@cchlawbase.co.nz> To: <icecast@xiph.org> Cc: <vorbis-dev@xiph.org> Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 2:48 PM Subject: RE: Fw: [icecast] Some Question <p>Oddsock wrote:> most of the major media players (winamp, foobar2k) come with > vorbis input plugins now.Winamp & Foobar2k are not major media players. I think around 70% of all users either use Windows Media Player or the RealOne player. Neither of which can play Vorbis streams, and this is a major hurdle in the acceptance of Vorbis streaming. I keep telling people that plugins are coming, but they seem to be taking forever. Ross. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. <p>--- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.
On 10 Nov 2003 at 18:38, Dave St John wrote:> In the realm of internet radio id have to say 80% use winamp, or other > players supporting http streaming. > Winamp being the biggest major player and xmms for linux. > Only noobs to the pc world use windows media and real player, since they are > the ones thrown in your face. > Once the noobs find internet radio, its a matter of seconds before they are > downloading winamp.Maybe I'm getting tedious but the macromedia flash plug-in is ready to play back mp3 streams, and without any player to download. How about solving the problems that makes it unusable with icecast2? I can do the testing if it helps. Also I would like to know if anyone knows if Macromedia is planning to support Ogg Vorbis sometime in the future. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.