Hi, I'm trying to build an lsp codebook to learn about the process, and I'm afraid that the vq hints http://www.xiph.org/archives/vorbis-dev/0000.html talk rather about residual training. So I can now produce .vqi files and add to them with lspvqtrain, but can anyone supply hints for the rest of the procedure? vqbuild will only produce a "cloud"-type quantlist, and sequencep is pretty much ignored. But if you use it anyway, you can go by hand through the xxx.vqh file and guesstimate enough to make a bogus .vql file. Then I ran latticebuild to get a first try .vqh file Any comments about what's allowed and how to choose addmul? Then I tried latticetune .vqh-file .vqd-file ohoh tha name had to be precisely latticetune (or restune?) ok I tried restune to read multiple cols. from lsp0coeff_0.vqd still not a big difference. Tried changing values in my .vql file. This made some difference. but I can't figure it out. How does one choose reasonable value0..valuen on the second input line to latticebuild? I would have thought that the lspvqtrain output (xxx.vqi) had this info in some ready-to-use fashion. Thanks, Erik. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ Ogg project homepage: http://www.xiph.org/ogg/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'vorbis-dev-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.