We have started organizing for Summer of Code 2009 :) Please add project ideas on the http://wiki.xiph.org/index.php/Summer_of_Code_2009 page I know many that have mentored students (myself included) have been disappointed with summer of code student results. With efforts put into mentoring not always > than results of just doing the coding yourself. A few ideas where raised over IRC on how to improve things and we are going to give it try again :) Looking back at soc 08 wiki page... while we did not have many student successes but at least the idea page helped lay some conceptual groundwork for moving froward. ie the oggpusher idea has transfored into j^ great firefogg project and Maikmerten has made patches to java theora decoing to have cortado support a more complete set of the bitstream features. Anyway If people have time to add some ideas to the SOC project page that would be great :) peace, michael