On 03/08/16 09:19, poma wrote:> > You don't seem to understand how the packages distribution works, > in this particular case, for Fedora 22. >I know far too well, which is exactly why I'm none too happy to encourage these particular practices. -hpa
On Mar 8, 2016 12:32 PM, "H. Peter Anvin via Syslinux" <syslinux at zytor.com> wrote:> > On 03/08/16 09:19, poma wrote: > > > > You don't seem to understand how the packages distribution works, > > in this particular case, for Fedora 22. > > > > I know far too well, which is exactly why I'm none too happy to > encourage these particular practices. > > -hpaPoma, in my opinion, this behavior means it's your/Fedora's responsibility to propose a change that distinguishes between broken and working NASM 2.11.06 or revert the commit in your/Fedora's build. --Gene
On 03/08/2016 02:53 PM, Gene Cumm wrote:> > Poma, in my opinion, this behavior means it's your/Fedora's responsibility > to propose a change that distinguishes between broken and working NASM > 2.11.06 or revert the commit in your/Fedora's build. >Yes, it is highly problematic to have especially build tools with version numbers that don't match upstream having different capabilities. It is further problematic that other bug fixes isn't pulled in. 2.11.06 is missing quite a few. As NASM maintainer, I would be happy to work with distributors to see what needs to be done to have a proper maintenance branch. -hpa
On 08.03.2016 18:29, H. Peter Anvin wrote:> On 03/08/16 09:19, poma wrote: >> >> You don't seem to understand how the packages distribution works, >> in this particular case, for Fedora 22. >> > > I know far too well, which is exactly why I'm none too happy to > encourage these particular practices. > > -hpa > >Multi multa, nemo omnia novit. You are the first, which defines cherry-pick-ing as "behavior that should not be encouraged". Quite awkward definition, may I say. http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/rpms/binutils.git/tree/ Should we consider as "behavior that should not be encouraged" some or all of these patches, as well, including binutils-2.26-Bsymbolic_PIE.patch. Ring a bell? ;)
On March 8, 2016 4:18:07 PM PST, poma <pomidorabelisima at gmail.com> wrote:>On 08.03.2016 18:29, H. Peter Anvin wrote: >> On 03/08/16 09:19, poma wrote: >>> >>> You don't seem to understand how the packages distribution works, >>> in this particular case, for Fedora 22. >>> >> >> I know far too well, which is exactly why I'm none too happy to >> encourage these particular practices. >> >> -hpa >> >> > >Multi multa, nemo omnia novit. > >You are the first, which defines cherry-pick-ing as "behavior that >should not be encouraged". >Quite awkward definition, may I say. > >http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/rpms/binutils.git/tree/ >Should we consider as "behavior that should not be encouraged" some or >all of these patches, as well, >including binutils-2.26-Bsymbolic_PIE.patch. > >Ring a bell? ;)Actually, yes; I would personally prefer if there was a newer upstream dot release. Cherry picking is one thing when there is no upstream maintenance release, but this is a chronic headache for us in the kernel space, too. -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse brevity and formatting.
On 08.03.2016 23:53, Gene Cumm wrote:> On Mar 8, 2016 12:32 PM, "H. Peter Anvin via Syslinux" <syslinux at zytor.com> > wrote: >> >> On 03/08/16 09:19, poma wrote: >>> >>> You don't seem to understand how the packages distribution works, >>> in this particular case, for Fedora 22. >>> >> >> I know far too well, which is exactly why I'm none too happy to >> encourage these particular practices. >> >> -hpa > > Poma, in my opinion, this behavior means it's your/Fedora's responsibility > to propose a change that distinguishes between broken and working NASM > 2.11.06 or revert the commit in your/Fedora's build. > > --Gene >It doesn't mean Fedora "is mine" just because I want to improve it. :) I'm just a user vulgaris, certainly not representative of the Fedora, therefore, I cannot take any responsibility, even if I wanted to. I can somewhat help and I help when I can, but all this is a job for people who work and live from it, redhatistas. What I've tried here is to build the SYSLINUX across maintained Fedora, 22 - 25, cos? semplice.